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Quote: The Trip "One of the biggest turn-offs for me is the game itself.Sky and the RFL are doing a great job of making the game unwatchable at times.All the usual facts about economics,game time changes,holidays,world cup, weather etc etc do play a part.But look at the facts.All the clubs are seeing sizeable drops in their average crowds and it's the once staunch support they are losing in there thousands.not just the drifters.
We are now accustomed to seeing most games played out on TV to scarcely populated grounds.
The RFL will have to be very careful because with the Yawnion World Cup approaching next year our game could be having the last rites performed on it.
I fear for the game!'"

Wholeheartedly agree, I've gone from being a home and away wakey fan that went to wembley finals, GB games and watched other teams games on Sky.
I haven't been to a CC final or GB game for years, I rarely go to away games, sky got cancelled and when we were beating Wigan I was at Nostell Priory for armed forces day.
Fair enough life changes and circumstances/financial situations alter, but for me the root cause for much of my apathy is that as a Wakey fan I feel disenfranchised from the wider game.
I see a home Wakey match as a day or evening out with my mates more than the chance to watch "my" team pit their wits and skills against the best in the competition.
I think the game in general and our club could do much more to make the average fan feel more included and valued.
I used to think this was the greatest game, now I'm not so sure that people like me are part of the future of the game, if indeed the game has any kind of sustainable wider appeal.
Certainly recent events call that into question.

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Quote: kinleycat "Wholeheartedly agree, I've gone from being a home and away wakey fan that went to wembley finals, GB games and watched other teams games on Sky.
I haven't been to a CC final or GB game for years, I rarely go to away games, sky got cancelled and when we were beating Wigan I was at Nostell Priory for armed forces day.
Fair enough life changes and circumstances/financial situations alter, but for me the root cause for much of my apathy is that as a Wakey fan I feel disenfranchised from the wider game.
I see a home Wakey match as a day or evening out with my mates more than the chance to watch "my" team pit their wits and skills against the best in the competition.
I think the game in general and our club could do much more to make the average fan feel more included and valued.
I used to think this was the greatest game, now I'm not so sure that people like me are part of the future of the game, if indeed the game has any kind of sustainable wider appeal.
Certainly recent events call that into question.'"

My sentiments exactly.

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Or is this just superleague, do fans of teams in the Championship and Championship 1 feel apathy towards the game aswell?

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Bit like kinleycat my self went to International/County games all away games even went to watch second division games Hunslet/Dewsbury/Batley if we didn't have a game.Now go to some away games but most home games missed Leeds game due to being away for the weekend but did get to watch it on sky.

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One thing that seemed obvious over recent weeks is the fall in number of away fans. I am sure many away supporters see a visit to Agbrigg and Belle Vue as one of the less desirable away locations.


However ! what really gets me is the massive latent support the club have and somehow more people need to be encouraged to come along to games. After every game, two or three of us go into various pubs in our 'colours' and the amount of people asking about the match is amazing. If you go into a pub with say 40 or so customers more than half are interested how we have got on. The interest and affection for the team is out there, getting them to pay into the ground is more difficult.

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Quote: jack in the box "However ! what really gets me is the massive latent support the club have and somehow more people need to be encouraged to come along to games. After every game, two or three of us go into various pubs in our 'colours' and the amount of people asking about the match is amazing. If you go into a pub with say 40 or so customers more than half are interested how we have got on. The interest and affection for the team is out there, getting them to pay into the ground is more difficult.'"


I can fully agree with this. We always call in a few pubs on the walk home from the game and the number of people who ask what the score was is amazing. There are also a number of people who will join in discussion about the game but then reveal they watched it on Sky in town with a gallon of ale, a gallon of ale that would have probably cost the same as the entrance fee to Belle Vue.

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When asked how we went on after a game and if we have won I start with"you missed a great game you should have been there" even if its not been a very good game all round.

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Shows how many people only turned up because of cheap or free tickets. Loyalty eh? I personally know of people who only went cos they could buy cheap tickets

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Talking of freebies, a mate of mine, who, up to this season had been an ST holder, has been to 3 games this year, all with freebie tickets, when asked where there from he wont say, but obviously there still out there.

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I noticed there was a clamp down at turnstiles on Friday. People who had bought tickets for the Leeds game had to go in the correct turnstile number on the ticket. A family in front of us were trying to get in at the turnstile next to the Con club with a ticket they had bought but were told to go in the correct turnstile number on Donny Road. Obviously there was a disgruntled reply from the father but the steward replied something along the lines of ''it's so we can tally up the tickets sold correctly, I'll get a rollocking if there's an odd ticket at my turnstile''.

There must still be some issues with fraudulent tickets. If people having to go through corresponding turnstiles eradicates this then I say fair enough.

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£22 is a lot of money if money is tight, if you have bags of disposable income then it's ok, plus if the product's poor as ours has been up to the last weeks then people will spend it elsewhere.

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"Where have all the fans gone?" Only one man knows the answer to this, and he's no longer at the club icon_mrgreen.gif

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Quote: kinleycat "Wholeheartedly agree, I've gone from being a home and away wakey fan that went to wembley finals, GB games and watched other teams games on Sky.
I haven't been to a CC final or GB game for years, I rarely go to away games, sky got cancelled and when we were beating Wigan I was at Nostell Priory for armed forces day.
Fair enough life changes and circumstances/financial situations alter, but for me the root cause for much of my apathy is that as a Wakey fan I feel disenfranchised from the wider game.
I see a home Wakey match as a day or evening out with my mates more than the chance to watch "my" team pit their wits and skills against the best in the competition.
I think the game in general and our club could do much more to make the average fan feel more included and valued.
I used to think this was the greatest game, now I'm not so sure that people like me are part of the future of the game, if indeed the game has any kind of sustainable wider appeal.
Certainly recent events call that into question.'"


Hit the nail on the head for me!. Add into the mix the constant messing about with KO times / days and some games that I would have gone to, I now couldn't.

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Makes me laugh all the excuses.
For example during winter RL there were mid week matches to fit in due postponements and challenge cup disruption.
Summer rugby now and people still finding excuses.
Why do people come on here to moan, but do not attend matches ?

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five home games on the trot when most are ready for taking their holidays, this one should be blamed on the stupid system of game selection that the RFL did, ok the Hull game was changed but what is up a simple home away home away, we are not all high profile clubs with greater attendances, just use a bit of common sense icon_stupid.gif

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