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Cmon bren my question was fair need an answer far as I know if an admission his charged a team sheet should be provided what id like to know is wrong with that too many touchy folk on here I'm not just talking about the current crop of youngsters I've been involved coaching and watching forover30 yes why do you think I've a special interest in this years lads time you and a few more on here stopped thinking these lads are extra special over 30 yrs surley without knocking the lads I've seen as good if not better

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Quote: try scorer "Wakefield is the only ground that dosent provide a team sheet , might seem trivial but to folk who take time out and are interested in youth' rugby think its a bit pathetic let's have an answer from those who come on here saying how well our our academy's doing-'"


What has having an opinion on how well the academy is doing got to do with a 'team sheet'?
I agree that perhaps one should be provided, but perhaps it is a matter of priorities.
I don't get a team sheet when entering the ground for 1st team fixtures, do you?

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Quote: try scorer "Cmon bren my question was fair need an answer far as I know if an admission his charged a team sheet should be provided what id like to know is wrong with that too many touchy folk on here I'm not just talking about the current crop of youngsters I've been involved coaching and watching forover30 yes why do you think I've a special interest in this years lads time you and a few more on here stopped thinking these lads are extra special over 30 yrs surley without knocking the lads I've seen as good if not better'"


Sorry for the delay; I'm not permanently logged in hitting refresh, just in case you 'need an answer.'

I'm frankly unmoved by how long you've been involved in junior rugby - it's irrelevant; your point was that not providing a team sheet is 'pathetic' and that it is somehow an indication that the academy set-up is not as good as has been described; in my view, that's a stupidly over the top way of describing what is a very minor issue.

You illustrate my broader point by making barbed comments about the young players; nobody said they were 'extra special,' but there is a justifiable sense that we have some promising lads at U16 and they are obviously well coached. That can only be a good thing and given your devotion to youth rugby, I'm surprised you don't agree.

As I said - it sounds to me like you have an agenda.

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Quote: try scorer "Cmon bren my question was fair need an answer far as I know if an admission his charged a team sheet should be provided what id like to know is wrong with that too many touchy folk on here I'm not just talking about the current crop of youngsters I've been involved coaching and watching forover30 yes why do you think I've a special interest in this years lads time you and a few more on here stopped thinking these lads are extra special over 30 yrs surley without knocking the lads I've seen as good if not better'"



If you were that interested you'd know that the U16s game was played at Castleford so maybe you should go on their forum to tell them how crap they are, Surely it's their job to produce a team sheet.

Taking any old excuse to have a go at the young kids who are doing we'll has shown you up for what you are, a bitter, jealous old has been or never was who can't stand being left behind.

You really are a bit of a fool, once again you've trotted out the old tired line about how good you are and how long you've been involved. No doubt one of your next answers will name drop Jason Robinson, Paul Newlove and blah blah blah get over yourself, that is if you're telling the truth which I doubt.

Do us all a favour and go train spotting, fishing, ballroom dancing or something and leave the kids alone

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Firstly bren where did I say it was pathetic, I asked a perfectly reasonable question about team sheets other clubs provide them what's the problem with us .Most people attending these games are parents and relatives of the players and know most of the teams but folk like myself who are just fans of the youth game find it more interesting if you know who's.playing don't need need you and your deputy the Avenger to give me a lecture by the way still haven't got an answer presume you don't know.Nathan avenger didn't go to cas but always been given one on previous visits,but my question was to do with games at bell vue.I'll try and answer you phe as I've said previously games are much more interesting and enjoyable if you know the names of players particularly the away team as you like to follow the progress made by players team sheets allow you to do this

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One other point avenger when I talk about academy I mean u19s as well presume you have some connection with u16 as all your references seem to point towards them

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Quote: try scorer "Firstly bren where did I say it was pathetic'"



Quote: try scorer "Wakefield is the only ground that dosent provide a team sheet , might seem trivial but to folk who take time out and are interested in youth' rugby think its a bit pathetic'"


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Quote: try scorer "Firstly bren where did I say it was pathetic, I asked a perfectly reasonable question about team sheets other clubs provide them what's the problem with us .Most people attending these games are parents and relatives of the players and know most of the teams but folk like myself who are just fans of the youth game find it more interesting if you know who's.playing don't need need you and your deputy the Avenger to give me a lecture by the way still haven't got an answer presume you don't know.Nathan avenger didn't go to cas but always been given one on previous visits,but my question was to do with games at bell vue.I'll try and answer you phe as I've said previously games are much more interesting and enjoyable if you know the names of players particularly the away team as you like to follow the progress made by players team sheets allow you to do this'"


Agree entirely, on a similar note the pa system cannot be heard in the North stand, so you spend the first part of the game trying to work out who is on the pitch and especially frustrating is not knowing who our subs are. We usually resort to tinterweb at the games in order to ascertain who is playing!

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Quote: try scorer "One other point avenger when I talk about academy I mean u19s as well presume you have some connection with u16 as all your references seem to point towards them'"


You mean like all the posts where I've spoken about Jowitt, Swann, Crowther, Johnstone etc who are all in the under 19s but to answer your assertion directly, I've no connection other than watching nowadays.
The question asked was about the U16s, the U19s we're never mentioned until your last post. You have an agenda as Bren2K said, it's obvious and the really sad thing is that whoever you have a grievance with it's the young lads who bear the brunt of your ridiculous sweeping statements.

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does anyone know (maybe the clan or mopsey could answer)are Kain and Hudson still employed by us.thers an article in the cas 7 ponte express about Hudsons partenership with Danny Orr saying they are holding extra training sessions for elite acadamey players in Cas & Ponte

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Quote: victarmeldrew "does anyone know (maybe the clan or mopsey could answer)are Kain and Hudson still employed by us.thers an article in the cas 7 ponte express about Hudsons partenership with Danny Orr saying they are holding extra training sessions for elite acadamey players in Cas & Ponte'"


That's a separate business that they run together and have done for a long time; he's still at Wakey.

John Kain, I believe, now works as a consultant and still has some involvement at WTW in that capacity.

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Apologies bren I did say pathetic nowt to do with how the16s are run my reference was only regarding the fact of the team sheets and I think I have explained the reasons why I felt strongly about that . the question originally was raised by some on else but its the u19s I watch mainly as they play on a regular basis but I have watched the 16s at Bellevue and the lack of teamsheets occurs as far as I know for both acadamies.About having an agenda don't make me laugh I've know axe to grind with any of the academy coaches why should I don't know any of them personally I say what I see and if you and the avenger feel that Wakefield academy need protecting from a wakey fan who as criticised the admin on this point tough don't think its me who's sad at all

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If it was a simple query about a team-sheet, why not say so, instead of posting in a thread entitled '1873 Success' the followingits a bit pathetic let's have an answer from those who come on here saying how well our our academy's doing-'"


Since the lack of a team-sheet can hardly be used as evidence that an academy is not well-run, your criticism seems over the top and unnecessarily harsh; I'm not in the business of protecting anyone, but it does sound like you are clutching at straws as a way to have a dig.

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Am not clutching at owt, don't take my apology as a sign of weakness if you still think I've an agenda that's up to you ,oh by the way you still haven't given an answer to the question that's got you all worked up,but you know what I ain't interested now

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Quote: try scorer "Wakefield is the only ground that dosent provide a team sheet , might seem trivial but to folk who take time out and are interested in youth' rugby think its a bit pathetic let's have an answer from those who come on here saying how well our our academy's doing-'"
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icon_confused.gif they have in the past, I was busy the last home game but when I have watched last seasons u16s the team sheet was issued on entrance and when run out was some more in the bar in the flats, we have only played one home game this season next game is 5th of May v Hull another big team who normally has a good academy, no doubt there will be a quite a few from the skirlaugh squad which was the best from age group

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