I'm no Agar apologist, however as others have said already we simply have to avoid relegation at all costs this year. It's also becoming pretty obvious to everyone that in most cases, especially on our budget, youngsters from down under are better than ours! If we go down I don't see a second chance.

Actually to be fair you are probably all correct, survival is all that matters and given the NRL is a significantly higher quality competition anything antipodean is bound to be better than what we have. And Leeds' loanees are miles ahead of our own. Guess we have to survive relegation at all costs and the same will apply whilstever P&R exists. So same again next season, and the season after etc. Well done to the RFL and the clubs.

Indeed. Is there any point in developing kids? If not is there any point in club1873 . The juniors will never be as good as imports or experienced campaigners if they rarely get a chance.

I guess its all part of the RFL's policy of contracting the game.

Been in club 1873 since the start but i have just cancelled the direct debit. This thread has made it clear to me now, whats the point?

Pathetic.

To me, questions need to be asked as to why we aren't producing players capable of making the step up. They should be developing a lot better during their younger years in the academy, instead of us throwing them into the Super League in the hope that they improve drastically with super league experience. A lot of youngsters that go onto be good Super League players it's already obvious they have the talent at the ages 21-22 and then it's all about breaking them in slowly. Obviously there are exceptions.

With the politest possible respect, I'm not sure how the number of homegrown players in any given squad is the rfls fault? They still require 7/25 to be homegrown ...

By contrast, saints have 11 out of the 19 who are home grown ...

Insightful as ever.

Sorry but thats my opinion on the subject. If i ever see our own given an even chance then i'll consider joining back up. But whilst we drop a player like Wildie (and yes he is fit btw) who has done a good job in the last two games to pick an aussie out of position (with just 4 first grade games experience 2 years ago) then i'll say again, whats the point? It will keep happening thanks to the backwards thinking of getting shut of licensing. A policy our own club voted for. May as well spend the brass on beer on the ground and help pay for the next loan player. Yes i'm pretty pished off about it.

If Agar played homegrown and they got ripped to shreds you woulden't of been happy either. Wildie will play this year he has already played..

On the Wildie issue, we have Mcshane, Godinet and Sammut who can all cover nine do we really need another on the bench?
Siejka maybe showing enough to force himself on the bench but to play him then means switching one of Godinet or Sammut about, that might prove either counter productive or a waste of a sub?
On the squad in general for this game I think we need more forwards on the bench than a spare back so I'd see them both missing out (Wildie and Siejka) anyway.
On the youth development it isn't the season to worry about it.
If or when we are in a less perilous state maybe then we might see more opportunities, but there are better options at the moment IMO and as Vasty says it's becoming something of a red herring. There's plenty of youth development they might not necessarily be ours though but equally ours end up somewhere else??

It's never easy to juggle developing youngster with winning games. I'd personally have given more opportunities to our young lads although with the added pressure of P & R back on the cards it's now even harder to give them experience.

Although, I do believe if a player is in form, or a team for that matter then why change anything unless it'll make a marketd difference? I feel sorry for some of the young lads as there are games where they've played brilliantly only to be left out of the squad/team for the next fixture for an established player who is either playing out of position or isn't any better.

The point is to get players better than Wildie in the future.
You really need to think about a user name change.

Fine by me. Mods please advise how.

I wouldn't be surprised if Agar did drop Wildie for the Aussie lad and I would be cheesed off if I was Wildie, after showing loyalty to a club and coach that have rarely given him a long run and chance in the first team.

Personally I dont think Wildie has what it takes.