Agar set the tone over the last couple of weeks by refusing to accept that we are in a relegation battle. Anyone with the slightest knowledge of RL knows that London and us have very very poor squads. We are in a battle to avoid relegation and the coach and players need to grasp that fact, we should set our stall out to play a simple game, fight for every inch, backs to the wall etc etc. No mistakes rugby, no rugby in our own half etc etc. Instead our players believe they can play rugby, the evidence is there for all to see that this is not the case. The coach needs to ensure that the players biy into a relegation battle and understand what is required.

No Agar isn't to blame for the mistakes and the lateness of the players arriving but..

He is responsible for picking Ryan way out of position.
He is responsible for playing with 16 men for most of the game.
He is responsible for then giving Walshaw less than 10 mins at prop.
He is responsible for not having a field training session on wednesday when we are desperate for practise time together.
He is responsible for not just instructing the players to play a simple gameplan given our lack of time together and the conditions.
He is responsible for not freshening up the team where he could with two matches so close together. Briscoe, Trout, Wildie etc could have played.
He is responsible for continually picking Lyne, a player not up to superleague standard.
He is responsible for putting Sammut on the bench then having to reorganise the team mid-game to accomodate him
He is responsible for our only set move being fling it to Ali on the charge. There are enough players there from last season to be able to make the calls.
He is, at least partly, responsible for allowing our best goalkicker and one of our best two centres to leave just before the season started. We have now kicked just two from five attempts.

So Agar has to take his share of the blame. Now is not the time to get rid but neither should he be untouchable if things don't improve quickly.

We rushed Sammut in. Should have kept with Sundays team. Sammut a big player to bring in only had one training session. Can't blame Agar for the individual errors but tactically we were a shambles last night. Last year our best team in many a year and best we could muster was 10th.We Will get better I am happy to give Agar another 6 games

Demonstrates some of the problems at Belle Vue. In six months we've gone from a threat to our existence to building a squad that on paper is equal to last seasons. No one will defend last nights performance, it was scrappy, error riddled and instantly forgettable. We probably over performed at Salford and we're unlucky not to get something out of the game and last nights game probably came too early. Two SL matches in five days is difficult at the start of the season when players aren't fully match fit. Let's be realistic, Four of the squad have been here less than two weeks, all in key positions, it will take time. Sammut was a gamble last night, it didn't come off with hindsight Wildie might have been a better option. Considering all that's gone on at Belle Vue Agar has put together a decent squad having lost and replaced a third of his first team. Godinet, Sammut and McShane are all good players in key positions give them time and they will come good. Agar is not a miracle worker, give him time to work with the players before this nonsense.

This.

I am sorry but Agar out is a stupid thing to say. It is not his fault that players were dropping balls left right and centre.

The structure of the defence in the last couple of games has been very good which is something that they must have worked on in pre season.

You also have to consider that 4 of our players have had less than a handful of training sessions with the team and Agar needs to be given chance to coach his team.

If we are still playing like we did last night after 10 games then maybe we may have to consider Agar out but I believe that we will get much better in the next few games.

Yes, yesterdays performance was dire, and Agar has to take some of the flak for this, but the errors we made were schoolboy, and only the players themselves can put that right.

Like others have said, our squad has only been together for a few weeks, whilst others have had all the winter. We started slowly in 2012, but finished strongly.

What I don't understand with Agar is the constant selection of Lyne obviously, but he has said he wants another front line prop, why?. We already have Anderson, Smith, Raleigh, Moore, Tautai and Shulver.

Personally, I think we need a good centre for the left, who is not coming towards the end of his career, but someone with several games under his belt. Sykes is too slow now, Lyne, Keinhorst and Briscoe don't have that much experience. Maybe an experienced centre could bring out the best in the younger backs such as Briscoe and Lynne.

Agar has a 3 year contract...We can't afford to sack him

That simple

Yes what a great coaching idea.... I can see it now..

"Lads I've put this team together on a small budget and I'm glad you've come. We are relegation fodder and everyone knows it so lets go out there and just try avoid relegation....yes? You understand??? Kirmo stop tickling Ali and sit still! Right so we are all agreed that the media is right and we have no potential....great now let's go to costa"

Your bitterness and pessimism seems to have overwhelmed your senses. Granted it's not a title winning team but it's more than adequate to avoid relegation and you know it.

Why we end up shooting ourselves in the the foot like last night I don't really know - what I do know is your relentless bagging of our teams season after season is getting beyond tedious and most times you are proved utterly wrong so your knowledge of the game MMHO is VERY highly questionable.

I know it's a truly bizarre attitude, yet I can vouch that when you actually talk face to face to Belly he's nowhere near as ridiculous as his posts on here suggest - but then that probably applies to us all.

I'm not in the Agar out camp but I would agree with most of this.
Agar is not to blame for players dropping balls etc but some strange decisions were made regarding last nights game that he should have made better.

Oh I know him........he's a nice enough lad and my Micky taking isn't just aimed at him but all negative fans if you want an easy ride go support a "big club" that you can praise most weeks and are fantastic and have nice big posh stadiums that have little atmosphere and all that.

As said on many occasions supporting OUR wildcats is a roller coaster either hold on tight and enjoy it for what it is or get off and que for the merry go round

What I didn't understand with last night's team selection was if he didn't think Briscoe would be the ideal replacement for Keinhorst, and ws hell bent on playing a forward in the centre, why wasn't it Walshaw or Kirmond. Both have played in the backs and have the positional experience. With regards to Lyne all I can imagine is that he has something on Agar to warrant his place in the team. The tactics were wrong, the kicking game non-existent and out most potent attacking threat (Collis) only utilised once or twice.