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Why was administration "not an option" to WTW ? That is the question to ask here.

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Quote: FIL "What you are forgetting is that we are not "iconic"...
As stated above !!!

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Quote: Tigerade "Why was administration "not an option" to WTW ? That is the question to ask here.'"

Because we were told we would have been out of SL if we did!!!!

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Quote: djcool "Because we were told we would have been out of SL if we did!!!!'"

This needs clarification IMO as does the Bulls situation.
If it then does not add up, we need to make an official and very public complaint bringing in the media.

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Quote: sixtogo "They must surely get at the very least a points deduction and only avoid relegation if the pay their creditors in full. If they escape any punishment then the game will be shown up to be obviously bent and I for one will walk away never to return. What is the point if is not going to at least pretend its a level playing field?'"

I would not be at all surprised (if there is something fishy going on) that this would be the desired effect.
No complaints from fans that are no longer there??
I know i'm not paranoid, but anything to do with the rfl and i start looking in the hedges at the bottom of the garden.

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This is from one week ago....

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/25833288
This is from one week ago....

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/25833288


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If only Michael Carter had waited one more day before releasing the news that BV’s capacity had been cut. It would’ve been a good day to bury a bad news story.

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Quote: sixtogo "They must surely get at the very least a points deduction and only avoid relegation if the pay their creditors in full. If they escape any punishment then the game will be shown up to be obviously bent and I for one will walk away never to return. What is the point if is not going to at least pretend its a level playing field?'"


The problem with walking away is that, it will only damage Wakefield Trinity.
If you feel so strongly, then don't go to Bradford or abstain from RFL events, like internationals of magic weekend.
Avoiding Iconic Odsal seems to be a more tempered response.

The penalty (or lack of it) will give a strong indication of the RFL's comment about "no safe teams" from relegation.
Many of the more cynical ones amongst us, believe that London, Catalan, Bradford and Salford would not be "allowed" to be relegated from SL and certainly, a lack of a points deduction here, would back up these thoughts.

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So are the players free agents?

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Quote: Manuel "So are the players free agents?'"

Nope they'll have been TUPED across. It’s basically a pre-pack.

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Michael, what are your thoughts on this.

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Looking objectively, have the Bulls gone into administration? Or was the main asset of one company transferred to the Bulls and the old company gone bust?

I don't see it as a club going bust but a legal mechanism to resolve an ownership dispute that the RFL was trying to resolve. Different to going bust and fishing for a buyer.

I don't see the conspiracy, as galling as it is.

What I don't know is how it differs from our situation.

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Quote: Slugger McBatt "Looking objectively, have the Bulls gone into administration? Or was the main asset of one company transferred to the Bulls and the old company gone bust?

I don't see it as a club going bust but a legal mechanism to resolve an ownership dispute that the RFL was trying to resolve. Different to going bust and fishing for a buyer.

I don't see the conspiracy, as galling as it is.

What I don't know is how it differs from our situation.'"

[i'OK Bulls Ltd was this morning placed into administration....'[/i

Going by that quote then yes they did. And conveniently just as they had a winding up petition issued by HMRC.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "The problem with walking away is that, it will only damage Wakefield Trinity.
If you feel so strongly, then don't go to Bradford or abstain from RFL events, like internationals of magic weekend.
Avoiding Iconic Odsal seems to be a more tempered response.

The penalty (or lack of it) will give a strong indication of the RFL's comment about "no safe teams" from relegation.
Many of the more cynical ones amongst us, believe that London, Catalan, Bradford and Salford would not be "allowed" to be relegated from SL and certainly, a lack of a points deduction here, would back up these thoughts.'"

I already avoid those events due to previous issues with the RFL's governence, failure to operate a fair and even set of rules on this one will be me done and i'm afraid if that impacts on Wakey then so be it. They will be taking part in a game i wouldn't want to be a part of anymore. And anyway they showed their hand by jumping into bed with the RFL over the restructuring which still leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. But this Bradford issue is the ultimate test of what values the game has.

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Quote: Slugger McBatt "Looking objectively, have the Bulls gone into administration? Or was the main asset of one company transferred to the Bulls and the old company gone bust?'"

If i have understood correctly. OK Bulls are in administration with a winding up petition/order from HMRC. Whilst in admin the ownership has been bought/transfered to the new company, OK Bulls will be liquidated.
I'm not si fussed about the points deduction, more the varying scenarios given to Trinity and Bradford should admin be involved.

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