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| I liked him personally, and think he would be even better in his 2nd season. For me would definitely be missed, especially if we have to fill the team with young lads which is looking more and more likely.
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| Give the bloke a chance it was his first season. It's not easy uprooting and moving to the other side of the world to a different climate and culture along with a young family. I have some idea as my eldest daughter made the reverse journey to Australia at the beginning of the year and is gradually getting used to it, but it takes time.
When Pat Richards first went to Wigan there were many pie eaters not overly impressed with him in his first season, but since then he's been fantastic for them.
As for the money, Justin took what was offered. Whether, in our opinions it was too much is irrelevant. That's what was offered.
No surer way to unsettle a player than for the supporters to start saying they want shut.
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| For me you've got to look at value to the team.
He may be paid more but getting two guys half as good really won't help us.
We need some people who can actually play.
Keeping him will help the younger guys in other positions perform to their best.
I'd rather keep him and have a slightly smaller squad (within reason)
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| Quote: pocket 4's "I don't really like terms like this or "get rid of xxxx" when you are talking about a guy's livelihood, which in fairness is probably underpaid as it is. Makes me feel uncomfortable and its not as easy as people state just to terminate someone's employment like that.
I think what you meant to say is that if we received an offer for him we should consider it.'"
Point taken, but to be fair it's a post on a thread about the likelyhood of Poore going - if we are able to offload him in any way shape of form I am of the opinion that the loss on the field will be less than the gain on the balance sheet even if no fee was received for him.
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| Can't agree he would be no loss on the field, the guy is a good quality, experienced, prop forward who was second only to Amor in terms of performance this year in that department, and is likely to be replaced by a much inferior player. He is also part of the teams leadership group and a popular guy to have around the team. But the saving made on his wage and even a nominal transfer fee are needed so letting him leave is a neccessay evil.
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| I don't know what his salary is and quite frankly I don't think we should know. His value to the team is what needs to be considered.
We are more than likely going to run with a drastically reduced squad next year and bearing in mind we have already lost Amor and Wilkes as well as Mariano who had some size and could cover prop if necessary. Nobody we bring in is going to have the same quality as those 3 and we will not compete at all if we can't lay some kind of platform for the backs.
To me, that means losing Poore would be a bridge too far. I'm fully aware that we have to "cut our cloth" but replacing him with 2 "average" props for the same money is false economy.
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| Quote: Agent XIII "I heard a rumour that he was quite poorely paid. I have no idea of course, just made it up, but I doubt any of the rumours any of you are quoting are anymore based on fact. To some it is just another chance to slate the previous chairman.
What if he decides to call in his loans which he could do we would then probably need to sell 10,000 season tickets.
I would suggest we let it go because there is nothing we can do about the past. I remember the Pearman era now that did leave us in a mess.'"
very quick to jump in to defend the old chairman yet so quick to criticise the new one - thats a little strange isn't it baring in mind the latter is sorting out the formers mess and the former wasn't even mentioned in the previous posts???????
For what its worth despite how Andrew Glovers spell in charge ended we have many many reasons to be thankful to him and had it not been for some very strange RFL u-turning , inocuous spending policies and lack of overall control he could/would still be in charge.
We should never forget that, but nor should we try to white wash history - but we are where we are for those reasons and i for one am a little dissapointed in both him, JE and the RFL.
If you are antagonised because of the level of criticism that is coming the way of AG then you shouldn't be, i think most decent fans will acknowledge his positive effect on the club in his time (and to a degree perhaps have some sympathy for him) but as i say we are where we are.
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| Quote: Fordy "I don't know what his salary is and quite frankly I don't think we should know. His value to the team is what needs to be considered.
We are more than likely going to run with a drastically reduced squad next year and bearing in mind we have already lost Amor and Wilkes as well as Mariano who had some size and could cover prop if necessary. Nobody we bring in is going to have the same quality as those 3 and we will not compete at all if we can't lay some kind of platform for the backs.
To me, that means losing Poore would be a bridge too far. I'm fully aware that we have to "cut our cloth" but replacing him with 2 "average" props for the same money is false economy.'"
Whilst i'm inclined to agree with you the problem is its becoming glaringly obvious that the season ticket sales are not going to allow an increase in our set salary cap spend. Even an unlikely doubling in sales only pays for what we already have, and that is 15/16 players. We can't play with that amount! So the only way to do it is lose some of the higher earners and get two for the price of one to end up with a squad of near a couple of dozen.
Now nobody is going to want buy Mellars or Fox and they aren't going to just walk away from a highly paid years salary. So we are going to have to release/sell the guys who are highly paid and there is interest in and Poore comes into that category. It will cost us in quality but without an unlikely influx of external cash from somewhere what other choice do we have? We have to be able to raise a team somehow, even though that team will probably not really superleague standard. A long hard season awaits.
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| Quote: Theboyem "Whilst i'm inclined to agree with you the problem is its becoming glaringly obvious that the season ticket sales are not going to allow an increase in our set salary cap spend. Even an unlikely doubling in sales only pays for what we already have, and that is 15/16 players. We can't play with that amount! So the only way to do it is lose some of the higher earners and get two for the price of one to end up with a squad of near a couple of dozen.
Now nobody is going to want buy Mellars or Fox and they aren't going to just walk away from a highly paid years salary. So we are going to have to release/sell the guys who are highly paid and there is interest in and Poore comes into that category. It will cost us in quality but without an unlikely influx of external cash from somewhere what other choice do we have? We have to be able to raise a team somehow, even though that team will probably not really superleague standard. A long hard season awaits.'"
Completely agree.
The saying that we will get the side we deserve (or something ike that) is ringing depressingly true.
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| I think all we can hope is to tread water till late November and Hope for a massive rise with people buying as Xmas presents. I know our crew mostly had season tickets bought as Xmas presents.
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| As with most imports, they need a season to bed in. Just ask the Wigan fans who wanted shut of Pat Richards in his first season what they think of him now.
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| Quote: Fordy "I don't know what his salary is and quite frankly I don't think we should know. His value to the team is what needs to be considered.
We are more than likely going to run with a drastically reduced squad next year and bearing in mind we have already lost Amor and Wilkes as well as Mariano who had some size and could cover prop if necessary. Nobody we bring in is going to have the same quality as those 3 and we will not compete at all if we can't lay some kind of platform for the backs.
To me, that means losing Poore would be a bridge too far. I'm fully aware that we have to "cut our cloth" but replacing him with 2 "average" props for the same money is false economy.'"
Who said anything about 2 average props for the same money, he's been paid close to twice what he's worth.
So we could get 2 decent props for the same money.
Not is fault and I think keeping him would be a bonus.
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| Quote: King Street Cat "As with most imports, they need a season to bed in. Just ask the Wigan fans who wanted shut of Pat Richards in his first season what they think of him now.'"
What, so because a completely player at a completely different club in a completely different position once took a season to bed in then Poore will do the same. Yes, that's a reasonable school of thought.
Shame we didnt keep Leano, Tongia, Hickey, Winterstein etc etc etc for a bit longer.
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| Quote: JINJER "I think all we can hope is to tread water till late November and Hope for a massive rise with people buying as Xmas presents. I know our crew mostly had season tickets bought as Xmas presents.'"
By the time psople get rount to buying Xmas presens or spending any spare Xmas money we may well be down to the bare bones and then people will be less likely to bother buying a ST.
I do believe they call it... a catch 22.
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| I don't know how much the lad gets paid and I do think comments like
Twice as much as worth
replace him for half the money
two players for the same
wage used more sensibly, help in anyway
What I do know is he put in some good games, don't recall him knocking on,and knows how to knock em down. His attitude seems first rate and hes said he wants to remain at the club. That for me puts him in the keep option.
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