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| Things have changed a lot since the inception of cheerleaders in RL.I remember when RL clubs first started having cheerleaders ,coming back from a game at Odsal on the West Riding bus ,Wakefield's two cheerleaders were on the top deck ,making their own way back home.
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| Quote: RebelRebel "IIRC, the figure quoted was around 400 quid per game. I know it seems quite a bit for a cash-strapped club, but if you assume the girls actually get paid something to perform, plus insurance costs, etc., what's left over, if anything, will hardly be enough to line that retirement nest.
In fact, by carrying the name of the club and presenting a positive image of it on other engagements beyond match days, they probably offer pretty good value. '"
(I know you don't know the answer, I'm just asking questions)
I know they carried our name, but did they pay anything to the club to use that. One could say that they got as much of a rub by being associated with a "professional" sports club than we did for their 'exploits' outside Belle Vue. In addition, did their work outside the club add anything in real terms (sponsors, bums on seats) when trading on our name.
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| Quote: Agent XIII "I believe the old regime were definitely not perfect but they improved the ground and gave the supporters more positively than we have had for many years. I would reiterate that the money he put in he does not want it back so I guess he has put a lot more in than you give him credit for.
My criticism of MC is not personal but I do feel he emphasised the negatives too much when dealing with the less committed of supporters who we need to buy season tickets to move forward.'"
Surely the more money he put in the more he would want it back? You use the words guess which means you dont know (neither do I btw). cant understand why you defend the old regime when its obvious they got more wrong than right. And then have an issue with carter for telling the truth. lets face it glover and elston are the main reason we are in the position we are in. They are the reason carter is in the position he is in finance wise. They are the reason he has had to be honest because people wont fall for the crap glover came out with again. So give they guy a break! And btw anybody can spend money they havent got on the stadium and players, does that make you good at your job? In your book, probably
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| Quote: t-r-i-n-i-t-y "I remember reading on here that the Dolls are "hired" by the club, so to speak, to perform on match day etc. Was that company run by someone also employed by the club at the same time and were any other "dance troupes" ever considered for hire, based on costs etc.
Don't know why I've thought if this now, but may as well ask.'"
The Dolls as a company are "owned" by Sarah Elstone and have been for some time. Hence the reason that the girls will be the dancers at the World Cup now Sarah works for the RFL.
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| Quote: Ponterflfan "The Dolls as a company are "owned" by Sarah Elstone and have been for some time. Hence the reason that the girls will be the dancers at the World Cup now Sarah works for the RFL.'"
Not Sarah Elston then, wife of James Elston? oh thats ok then..
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| When they dance at other events are they known just as the the Wildcat Dolls cos to any one outside rugby league that will mean sweet FA in terms of publicity for the club.
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| OK replace guess with I am certain that it was confirmed that Glover loaned a least £500,000 to the club. It was also stated that he had agreed not to request payment of the loan. I hope this clarifies the situation for you but if I am wrong I am sure someone will correct me.
For the last time our total debt due is less than £400,000 and we have no overdraft at the bank or any outstanding CCJ's as confirmed by MC.
I have great respect for him taking it on however, I did have a problem with how the news delivered was all negative. He was speaking to those who are still to renew their season tickets and human nature does not respond too well to the only bit of positive news that the club will start 2014 but could be just cannon fodder for the rest of Super League. I believe he is learning because the last interview did contain some positives.
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| Quote: Kevs Head "When they dance at other events are they known just as the the Wildcat Dolls cos to any one outside rugby league that will mean sweet FA in terms of publicity for the club.'"
Yep they use the generic term of the wildcat dolls and dress in non club branded clothing. We gain zero publicity out of this.
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| Quote: Agent XIII "OK replace guess with I am certain that it was confirmed that Glover loaned a least £500,000 to the club. It was also stated that he had agreed not to request payment of the loan. I hope this clarifies the situation for you but if I am wrong I am sure someone will correct me.
For the last time our total debt due is less than £400,000 and we have no overdraft at the bank or any outstanding CCJ's as confirmed by MC.
I have great respect for him taking it on however, I did have a problem with how the news delivered was all negative. He was speaking to those who are still to renew their season tickets and human nature does not respond too well to the only bit of positive news that the club will start 2014 but could be just cannon fodder for the rest of Super League. I believe he is learning because the last interview did contain some positives.'"
He has promised (note not signed up to) not to call it in YET. For two years is the timescale mentioned. But whilst that debt is on the books it prevents the ckub getting any credit and puts off off potential investors. So to say the actual debt is just 400k is extremely shortsighted, the two million overall debt affects the club EVERY day.
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| Quote: Theboyem "He has promised (note not signed up to) not to call it in YET. For two years is the timescale mentioned. But whilst that debt is on the books it prevents the ckub getting any credit and puts off off potential investors. So to say the actual debt is just 400k is extremely shortsighted, the two million overall debt affects the club EVERY day.'"
Yes it does, it almost seem like he's trying to defend the mess the clubs in and those involved in that.
Maybe there is a reason for that i don't know.
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| Quote: Theboyem "Quote: Theboyem "When they dance at other events are they known just as the the Wildcat Dolls cos to any one outside rugby league that will mean sweet FA in terms of publicity for the club.'"
Yep they use the generic term of the wildcat dolls and dress in non club branded clothing. We gain zero publicity out of this.'"
Yep, wern't they on Soccer AM as Stockport County's cheerleaders?
No mention of Trin.
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| Quote: El Rey "Yes it does, it almost seem like he's trying to defend the mess the clubs in and those involved in that.
Maybe there is a reason for that i don't know.'"
Because he was part of spirit of 1873 not long after it's inception?
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| Is Agent XIII a Russian KGB agent as I don't understand the posts most of the time.
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| You said it "you don't know" other than MC nobody on here does but that doesn't stop them pontificating about everything Wakefield related.
I still have not heard of any new investment now Elstons gone but its early I expect by Monday they will have come forward after all some on the forum said it would happen.
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| Quote: Agent XIII "You said it "you don't know" other than MC nobody on here does but that doesn't stop them pontificating about everything Wakefield related.
I still have not heard of any new investment now Elstons gone but its early I expect by Monday they will have come forward after all some on the forum said it would happen.'"
It took a while before JE bit the bullet. Maybe they are waiting for the dust to settle.
rickjude is phoning Monday if that helps?
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