FORUMS > Wakefield Trinity > Agar in Aus looking to sign new players? |
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 28 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2013 | 11 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2017 | Jan 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| Perhaps it was arranged ages ago, perhaps the national French team are paying for his stay?
We don't know the facts just the fact he is there and hopefully it may benefit us in the long run.
Who in the UK will be tempted to join a club on the brink of admin, again after just 24 months. Would you work for a company with a record like Wakey? I wouldn't.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 1470 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 1970 | Jun 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| Quote: Wakeylad21 "Who in the UK will be tempted to join a club on the brink of admin, again after just 24 months. Would you work for a company with a record like Wakey? I wouldn't.'"
Well the players, for a start. Justin Poore stated he wanted to remain at Wakey because he's pleased with the way he's progressed under Richard Agar. And he was decent enough before he came to us. If it applies to him, maybe it'll apply to some of the other wannabes? It's not always about the instant cash, or shouldn't be. What players could get from the next 2 years may be worth many times that in the future.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 2691 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2013 | 12 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2022 | Oct 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
fonds blancs/The%20Elbonians.gif :fonds blancs/The%20Elbonians.gif |
|
| Quote: Khlav Kalash "Quote: Khlav Kalash "Think it's a mistake if the club has financed him to go to Aus when we haven't secured our own young players here and we don't have money to put a squad of 26 together for next season.'"
Tend to agree, he's been told to find a half to replace Smith, I dont think what Trinity can offer will secure anyone of note, they may as well put the funding into what we have.'"
Doesn't need to go to Oz to find a half to replace Tim, there is one a bit closer to home!!
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 3192 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2006 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2022 | Sep 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
22151_1298059614.jpg LOOKING FOR ACCOMMODATION IN ORLANDO, FLORIDA
//www.orlandovilla.org.uk:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_22151.jpg |
|
| Quote: asmadasa "Think it's a mistake if the club has financed him to go to Aus when we haven't secured our own young players here and we don't have money to put a squad of 26 together for next season.'"
Richard Agar has paid for the trip to Australia himself not the Club.
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 27039 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2017 | Sep 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
17219_1385659818.jpg onetiger = half a cabbage
The night is dark and full of terrors.
Winter is coming.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_17219.jpg |
|
| Quote: Sandal Cat "Richard Agar has paid for the trip to Australia himself not the Club.'"
Does he not do this every off season, he gets involved with coaches and uses contacts in Aus.
I have never been Richards biggest fan but i will support him and he needs to cut some slack IMO.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 27039 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2017 | Sep 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
17219_1385659818.jpg onetiger = half a cabbage
The night is dark and full of terrors.
Winter is coming.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_17219.jpg |
|
| Quote: Khlav Kalash "Tend to agree, he's been told to find a half to replace Smith, I dont think what Trinity can offer will secure anyone of note, they may as well put the funding into what we have.'"
He may just turn up another Henry Paul, its happened before.
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1413 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2008 | 17 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2021 | Mar 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
38504_1335209582.jpg :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_38504.jpg |
|
| One thing we consistently do is add value to players whose careers have stalled. Unwanted players we have taken on in recent years include Atkins, Ferres, Kirmond, Cockayne,George, T Smith, Amor,Tronc......some incentive there for players who need a second chance.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 1780 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2011 | 13 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2020 | Apr 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| Always a gamble but lets face it we have had some cracking players that were not known names before they came.Yes we have had some right rubbish at the same time but when moneys tight I would be looking to secure Kay and Wildie at the very least.
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 17980 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Apr 2011 | 14 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
simpsons/simp006.gif :simpsons/simp006.gif |
|
| Quote: les-goose "Always a gamble but lets face it we have had some cracking players that were not known names before they came.Yes we have had some right rubbish at the same time but when moneys tight I would be looking to secure Kay and Wildie at the very least.'"
Nothing was mentioned about Wilde last night but, Kay has been made an offer by the club but, his agent was demanding 3X the figure that we offered ????
Although we all have to put food on the table and nobody can blame anyone for taking up a better offer elsewhere, there should be some loyalty in the opposite direction and perhaps some of the players should be wanting to help the club go forward, not just looking for a fast buck elsewhere.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 13798 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2006 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
29100_1291104497.jpg 1/10:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_29100.jpg |
|
| Quote: wrencat1873 "Nothing was mentioned about Wilde last night but, Kay has been made an offer by the club but, his agent was demanding 3X the figure that we offered ????
Although we all have to put food on the table and nobody can blame anyone for taking up a better offer elsewhere, there should be some loyalty in the opposite direction and perhaps some of the players should be wanting to help the club go forward, not just looking for a fast buck elsewhere.'"
As I already mention, apparently the kid is on less than £10k, tripling his salary isn't exactly asking for a fortune.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 5086 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2022 | Nov 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
14911_1666773367.jpg [b:3diuzizv][color=#0000FF:3diuzizv]WAKEFIELD[/color:3diuzizv] [color=#FF0000:3diuzizv]TRINITY[/color:3diuzizv] - [color=#FF0000:3diuzizv]The[/color:3diuzizv] [color=#0000FF:3diuzizv]PRIDE[/color:3diuzizv] [color=#FF0000:3diuzizv]of[/color:3diuzizv] [color=#0000FF:3diuzizv]Sporting[/color:3diuzizv] [color=#FF0000:3diuzizv]Wakefield[/color:3diuzizv][/b:3diuzizv]
[b:3diuzizv][color=#FF0000:3diuzizv]THE DEFINITION OF INSANITY IS DOING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND EXPECTING DIFFERENT RESULTS[/color:3diuzizv][/b:3diuzizv]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_14911.jpg |
|
| Quote: Khlav Kalash "As I already mention, apparently the kid is on less than £10k, tripling his salary isn't exactly asking for a fortune.'"
Whilst I agree with you, I don't think we know what the club have offered (unless you're saying that is under £10k) to him to renew.
Assuming we have offered to increase that to, say £15k, which is still cheap as chips, would you say we should pay him £45k???
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 13798 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2006 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
29100_1291104497.jpg 1/10:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_29100.jpg |
|
| Quote: Fordy "Whilst I agree with you, I don't think we know what the club have offered (unless you're saying that is under £10k) to him to renew.
Assuming we have offered to increase that to, say £15k, which is still cheap as chips, would you say we should pay him £45k???'"
A compromise ought to be reached. Double with incentives perhaps. Still I believe if a contract had been forthcoming sooner the agent definitely wouldn't be asking for triple, but thats the gamble Trinity took.
Is there still the requirement that as soon as a youngster plays 25 games they automatically go onto a minimum of £25k?
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 793 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2011 | 14 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Dec 2016 | Dec 2016 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| Quote: Fordy "Whilst I agree with you, I don't think we know what the club have offered (unless you're saying that is under £10k) to him to renew.
Assuming we have offered to increase that to, say £15k, which is still cheap as chips, would you say we should pay him £45k???'"
it isn't quite that straightforward and it isn't that much! heard that there is a bit more plus a job offer which takes it to a larger amount!
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 5086 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2022 | Nov 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
14911_1666773367.jpg [b:3diuzizv][color=#0000FF:3diuzizv]WAKEFIELD[/color:3diuzizv] [color=#FF0000:3diuzizv]TRINITY[/color:3diuzizv] - [color=#FF0000:3diuzizv]The[/color:3diuzizv] [color=#0000FF:3diuzizv]PRIDE[/color:3diuzizv] [color=#FF0000:3diuzizv]of[/color:3diuzizv] [color=#0000FF:3diuzizv]Sporting[/color:3diuzizv] [color=#FF0000:3diuzizv]Wakefield[/color:3diuzizv][/b:3diuzizv]
[b:3diuzizv][color=#FF0000:3diuzizv]THE DEFINITION OF INSANITY IS DOING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND EXPECTING DIFFERENT RESULTS[/color:3diuzizv][/b:3diuzizv]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_14911.jpg |
|
| Quote: tamargrace "it isn't quite that straightforward and it isn't that much! heard that there is a bit more plus a job offer which takes it to a larger amount!'"
Well I would say that depending on the job offer then it could be a good deal. Playing careers are not that long and if the job gives him some experience and trainign in something that he could do after Rugby I would think that would be good for a young player.
having said that, I don't know what the offer is, if it's cleaning the loos then obviously there's no future merit in that.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 15521 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2010 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2020 | May 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
50722_1319672516.jpg :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50722.jpg |
|
| The lad himself was a bit upset that this was being discussed on Twitter last night - it's probably a bit unseemly to be taking about the small details, given his age and the issues involved.
When I negotiate my salary, I don't usually have an audience of anonymous people chipping in their thoughts!
|
|
|
|
|
|