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If you don't know the difference between "there", "their" and "they're" I might get annoyed.
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| With the third year of his contract to go I would maybe have waited until part way through next season to negotiate/consider any extension. Whilst we had a good run last season that set the standard with pretty much the same squad.
Compared to last season we have under performed and I think we will finish in 12th spot. I hope to be proven wrong. I believe on paper we are a better team than the league table suggests. Could do better.
We maybe building for the future yet I have less optimism for next season than a few months ago. Agar needs to prove that he can lift the players/discipline them to get results. We've lost too many winnable games this year IMVHO.
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| Not happy if it's true. Some players / teams just need a new man at the helm in order to kick on and I reckon that's what we need. Cas, Warrington, KR, Hudds, both saints and Wigan in the past have changed coaches and seem to go up a level. No reflection on Agar, just how it is, new broom, new ideas, fresh motivation.
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| I don't understand why, he's got 1 year left and I don't see anyone coming in for him.
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| I think it just shows the team as a whole that he is boss for the next couple of years so the structures are important to follow.
Nathan Brown was always just on the edge of in or out and that always seemed to upset Huddersfield. They have benefitted from some stability
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| Quote: El Rey "I don't understand why, he's got 1 year left and I don't see anyone coming in for him.'"
Exactly ! let that year run and offer him one further year after that PROVIDING he avoids relegation.
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| So we have to put up with his stupid bench selection for another two years?
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| I'd be happy with that, I'm pro-Agar at the moment.
The way I see it, we didn't earn 8th last year, we were gifted it via Bradford's point deduction so shouldn't feel over proud with that achievement. This year, yes some decisions were made that may not have been what we personally would have done but we don't know the ins and outs and what happens behind the scenes, despite most people on here acting like they do! I think we have looked more creative this year and showed potential in many games, I think we only missed out on the 8 because of the same stupid player errors which cost us many points each game, I'd hold the players more responsible for the lost games than Agar!
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| Quote: jack in the box "Exactly ! let that year run and offer him one further year after that PROVIDING he avoids relegation.'"
That's hardly building a team though is it. If he was good enough to get him on board, give him a fair crack and let him have some stability for his future as well.
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| Also, I'd put more value in the criticism of Agar, if it wasn't exactly the same criticism that people (possibly the same ones) gave Kear.
Picking people they don't like, not just throwing the kids in, playing a bench that they don't like.......all said about Kear as well.
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| Quote: 18th Man "I'd be happy with that, I'm pro-Agar at the moment.
The way I see it, we didn't earn 8th last year, we were gifted it via Bradford's point deduction so shouldn't feel over proud with that achievement. This year, yes some decisions were made that may not have been what we personally would have done but we don't know the ins and outs and what happens behind the scenes, despite most people on here acting like they do! I think we have looked more creative this year and showed potential in many games, I think we only missed out on the 8 because of the same stupid player errors which cost us many points each game, I'd hold the players more responsible for the lost games than Agar!'"
At the moment we are 7 points adrift of 8th spot and that is likely to be closer to 10 by the end of the season.
However you wish to measure that "achievement", it's very poor.
I know that the margins between 8th and 12 and that big but we have had an extremely poor third quarter of the season. If Mr Agar is not culpable, then who ???
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| If the other story is true, I guess some stability in at least one area will be seen as a good thing.
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| Quote: PopTart "That's hardly building a team though is it. If he was good enough to get him on board, give him a fair crack and let him have some stability for his future as well.'"
If we get relegated next season many of the players will have their contracts terminated. Staff at the club will be made redundant, why should Agar be immune.
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| If I though for one minute that getting rid of RA would turn us into a top team I'd all for it. It won't though. Tony Smith would probably not get much more from the players we have.
You cannot coach in what's not in there to be coached.
He has his favourites, no doubt about that but generally it's the players fault were not in the top 8 not RA's fault.
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| No problem with it he is what we can afford . At least we think we will exist in 2 years. Last year we had a greater degree of luck winning the close games this year not so much , just shows how tight the margins are and to be fair taking away the top 5 there is little between the rest.
Rumour circulating yesterday was Sean long coming in as his assistant next year
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| Quote: jack in the box "If we get relegated next season many of the players will have their contracts terminated. Staff at the club will be made redundant, why should Agar be immune.'"
We'll be giving them contracts that last longer, but will terminate if we go down.
That's not the same as waiting till the last minute to tell you whether you have a job
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