I'm sorry to say, I don't think he can. We were a poor side for 2/3 of last year and Agar's team selection and tactics were a big part of the story. I gave Agar credit when it was due; we seemed to have turned a corner. Then we start this season not much better than the last and Agar and his team selections get back to mystifying. I am beginning to think he just got lucky and got his hand forced into playing people like Mariano, who is a far better player than his little pet player chums who walk in the side. As for Lyne...any coach who cannot see how out of his depth that boy looks is not worth his salary.

Mate you are spot on his favoritism really is a weakness this is what i put 2 month ago. Great post


GET JOHN KEAR BACK !

Lyne was doing well at the beginning of the year. He has lost confidence (the injury? who knows) he needs to start backing and believing himself!
If you look where we were last season to where we are now then you'll be pleased, others teams have improved also putting pressure on us. Its funny how people start slating team players when they know nothing behind the scenes etc. Yes I believe Mariano is a good player, better than both Mellars and Molloy as what I have seen but if he has attitude problems when it comes to training or whatever then he should be tought a lesson. If you look at the quality and amount of money Hull FC have within their squad they should be beating us by alot more than that! Their defence was solid tonight and thoroughly deserved as I believe we didn't turn up at all, when we started to step it up a gear they closed down, Smith, Wood, Cockayne and Fox.

The question in the thread title is mind boggling really.....

The difference in what all 3 can bring to our side when on the field of play is unreal....

If Mariano has attitude/training problems then that's up to the coaching staff to earn their money and sort it out and get Frankie on the field of play doing what he does best.....a crying shame really.....

On the selection tonight.....it was maybe a call to Reece to say go on lad prove all those at Hull wrong......it didn't work and he needs his confidence building back up.....he wasn't the only player to be short of his best though.....think he still has potential....

Got to ask how did Agar get his hand forced into playing people like Mariano last year, who when fit was just about always in. Also who are these pet player chums you speak of? Over reaction or what.

As for Lyne he played really well in the first few games and looked like a very good signing, we even had a few threads about him but he has seemed to have lost his confidence of late. Wasn't it hull earlier in the season where he had his other poor game, coincidence?

Hard to argue with that - he looked totally over-awed tonight; the few times he did carry the ball, he was finding the ground before the tackler laid a hand on him.

As I recall, Mariano couldn't get a look in in Agar's plans 1st 2/3 of season, though I stand to be corrected. Suddenly he got picked and was a major eason we did so well in my view..then here we are again and he's off to Featherstone. I read there have been attitude problems...well we don't know what goes on behind closed doors I suppose, but I'm pretty sure Rhys Lyne does not look ready now for SL and I'm not sure he ever will. He reminds me of someone like Paul White. Loads of pace. Can rip a side up in the championship but is just too lightweight fo SL. I may be wrong about the future, but at the current time he he an obvious weak link in the side and should not be playing. We seem to have binned players like Mariano and Ellis who made us look a stronger side. We now are back to Wakefield light, as we were early 2012. We were very good v Catalan...and Agar tinkers and brings Lyne back

Lyne, Mellars for a start off.

If I remember rightly he was injured at the start of last season for the first 7 or 8 games or something, played 15 games last season in the end.

Mellars was dropped for a bit wasn't he, then came back and has done well, certainly not enough to be dropped and also provides cover for a few positions, so I don't get that one.

Lynes's been injured and not come back the player he was before.

Without the reserves it's must be hard for a coach to get players back match fit or find out if they are in form

Thing is just because he puts players in you might not like or agree with, doesn't make them his favorites.

Fair enough...why off to Featherstone though? Crazy decision for me. Some spat? Fergie knew how to get the good bad boys onside...a good coach should know how in my opinion. I just don't know where I am with Agar. I felt converted by the end of the year. We have been nearly back to square one fo most of this season. Catalans looked like the push on...tonight, though full of effort in defence,was pretty dismal. We never looked like winning. Yes Hull's defence was 1st class but our lack of adaptation and willingness to 'go for it' and chance our arm in the last 30 mins was dismally disappointing.

does anyone actually know and will post anything that's gone on between agar and frankie to end him up at fev?

Yes...I think a light squad does make life hard for a coach, you are right. And I think the point about match fitness applies to proven SL players but Lyne just does not look robust enough to me to play centre in SL. I don't think injuries or confidence is the issue; I just don't think he quite has it. As I said earlier, Paul White: lightning fast, pretty skillful, but small and you need the pace, skill and the beef in most positions these days sadly.

Here we go FWIW I dont think Mariano has taken his chances this season again I think he had some knocks but I havent seen anything from him that warrants a place in the team based on his performance, if there is an issue between him and the coaching staff then the coaching staff will see the decision to loan him out ats the right move.

Mellars looks to be getting up to speed and has utility value, Malloy is just coming back from injury and it looks to me that he is gaining full match fitness on a week to week basis recovering from his long term injury too early to say how he will go for me.

Guess if we are getting up to Mellars speed it explains why we were so slow, totally agree about mariano v Mellars . Last night we never managed to create any meaningful gaps in the hull defEnce. There forward s totally outplayed ours. Men v boys spring to mind.
Re Mellars we are stuck with him and nobody else wants him. What I don't understand is we are paying a part of marianos salary . Then we sign Molloy and Lynne total additional outgoing 70 k whilst we have trout walshaw and cowling out on loan

When you go to hull it shows you part of Wakefield areas long term recruitment problems , whiting briscoe westerman arundel Pitts lynch all local lads