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| One word for Mr Khan - Unlucky
Bradford received unprecidented help from many different parties to help them through last season.
What exactly was the deal for them not to receive SL cash this season (I pressume that it was some kind of fine ?)
He should be more concerned that £500000 was raised to keep them afloat, only for the club to go into administration.
It is a very sorry tale and their unprecidented help to stay in SL means that there is little sympathy for their plight.
The retention of players when they were so heavily in debt remains an unsolved mystery.
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| One of the support staff at work is a bulls fan.
I've tried to understand her view about funding for this year. I've even tried to break it up into steps to try & explain to her how they've "already been paid". But I can't untangle the logic.
She acknowledges they were funded multiple times by SL, she can even understand that it was under the pretense of an "advance on 2013 monies", but then thinks it's unfair they get no funding this year???
Even after I explained that when we were in the same position we were left to die & our administrators sold players at will. Nothing.
"What else could they have done? Let us die?"
"YES, what's good for one is good for all!"
To make matters worse I wasn't even believed about us not being paid an equal SL wage when were admitted for the first 2 seasons.
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| As I said at the time, the money withheld could have been used for much worthier causes in RL given the funding cuts just being made at grassroots.
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| Quote: Bully_Boxer "As I said at the time, the money withheld could have been used for much worthier causes in RL given the funding cuts just being made at grassroots.'"
As could the money that the RFL gave to the bulls.
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| Quote: Catnap "As could the money that the RFL gave to the bulls.'"
The money was an advancement of sky money they would have received that year anyway.
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| Quote: Bully_Boxer "The money was an advancement of sky money they would have received that year anyway.'"
Presumably you are talking about the money that they gave you when you went into admin to bail you out, I'm talking about the money that they secretly loaned you previously hoping that no one would find out, and the money that they subsequently gave you for the Odsal lease in an attempt to cover the problem up when they realised the crap was about to hit the fan.
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| Or they could have just applied the laws of natural selection that were deemed fair & appropriate for others.
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| Quote: TRB "From Sporting Life...
[i"It doesn't make sense to me. If that money had gone to make the game bigger it wouldn't have bothered me.
"The conclusion I've come to is 'you take care of yourself'. We're just a club on its own. Every club is on its own but it shouldn't be. They should be working together to grow game.
"If it was up to me I'd made decisions for the whole of the game. It's a game that should grow - it should have grown a long time ago. Rugby league should be buzzing and becoming a massive game but at the moment it's declining."[/i'"
After the amount of begging that went on, to make that comment is quite something!!!
More of an -head than I first thought!!
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| If he believes that any club chairman has ever made a decision that wasn't based on self interest then he is also too naive to be the owner of a pro sports club. There will come a day when he has to make a decision that is either for the good of the game or the good of Bradford and that will show how concerned he is for the game itself, and I know where my money would be.
He should just get on with running his club and keep his comments to himself because between him and the fans they are fast making the Bradford bulls the most disliked club in the game.
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| Quote: Bully_Boxer "The money was an advancement of sky money they would have received that year anyway.'"
Surely, if the money lent to the club to get it through the difficulties, prior to the takeover was for the 2012 season, why do they still have to fore-go a further £1.2M?
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| Whether people admit it or not some fans of other teams are very bitter that the Bulls are still here, some of you on here sound bitter. Yes we were quite lucky that we kept most of our team in tact, that was down to the administrator not selling, your administrator could have done the same but tbh your better off that he did, your a much better side now.
The £1 million in my eyes shouldn't have gone to the other clubs. Not trying to make excuses but we've already had our sky money cut, so other clubs receiving the money we lose is always going to put us at a disadvantage. I'm not fussed about the money advantage....the talking is done on the pitch however the rightful thing for the RFL to do with that £1 million (that the Bulls won't be receiving) was to help the businesses that our former owners owed money to.....the ones that needed the money most especially in this economic climate.
*Cue some idiot saying Bulls are complaining blah blah*
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| Surely bulls boy the £1m should not be paid out to pay the debts your club accrued, if your board feel that they should pay them, then so be it. But that £1m is not for Bulls to get back some goodwill they failed to show to their creditors.
Good luck to your club but not until after Sunday, looking forward to this coming season.
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| Quote: Bulls Boy 2011 "Whether people admit it or not some fans of other teams are very bitter that the Bulls are still here, some of you on here sound bitter. Yes we were quite lucky that we kept most of our team in tact, that was down to the administrator not selling, your administrator could have done the same but tbh your better off that he did, your a much better side now.
The £1 million in my eyes shouldn't have gone to the other clubs. Not trying to make excuses but we've already had our sky money cut, so other clubs receiving the money we lose is always going to put us at a disadvantage. I'm not fussed about the money advantage....the talking is done on the pitch however the rightful thing for the RFL to do with that £1 million (that the Bulls won't be receiving) was to help the businesses that our former owners owed money to.....the ones that needed the money most especially in this economic climate.
*Cue some idiot saying Bulls are complaining blah blah*'"
I have every sympathy for the turbulent times your club is going through, but let's compare our respective recent administration experiences:
Wakefield have to sell of all their best talent and play a season with kids and a few aging players of yesteryear. Bradford keep their squad intact (despite containing some of the leagues best talent)
Wakefield - no financial aid offered or even discussed and we end up being assumed by all and sundry to be nailed on for a one way trip into the national leagues. Bradford (who have the clout to raise £500k in donations btw) are then forwarded their sky money and the RFL buys the lease to their ground, bending over backwards to help out.
So reading posts from Bradford fans moaning about the injustice of it all, don't really inspire much sympathy tbh.
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| Quote: Bulls Boy 2011 "Whether people admit it or not some fans of other teams are very bitter that the Bulls are still here, some of you on here sound bitter. Yes we were quite lucky that we kept most of our team in tact, that was down to the administrator not selling, your administrator could have done the same but tbh your better off that he did, your a much better side now.
The £1 million in my eyes shouldn't have gone to the other clubs. Not trying to make excuses but we've already had our sky money cut, so other clubs receiving the money we lose is always going to put us at a disadvantage. I'm not fussed about the money advantage....the talking is done on the pitch however the rightful thing for the RFL to do with that £1 million (that the Bulls won't be receiving) was to help the businesses that our former owners owed money to.....the ones that needed the money most especially in this economic climate.
*Cue some idiot saying Bulls are complaining blah blah*'"
So now you're saying that SL should now pay the debts that your new owner refused to take on!
The first condition of you keeping a SL license should have been that your new owner take on the debts of the previous administration and failing to do so should have resulted in you dropping out of SL, if that had meant you folding then tough but the game would survive without you. The RFL might have bent over backwards to help you but that was in all likelyhood to try and cover their own backs.
Don't run away with the idea that any other owner in SL thinks you're too important to lose, and certainly not at the expense of their club and it's only natural that in tough times they will look after themselves, so yes I will accuse you of whinging, and it's about time you stopped it kept your mouths shut and got on with the situation you've got instead of continually trying to blame someone else for all your woes.
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| Quote: Bulls Boy 2011 "Whether people admit it or not some fans of other teams are very bitter that the Bulls are still here, some of you on here sound bitter. Yes we were quite lucky that we kept most of our team in tact, that was down to the administrator not selling, your administrator could have done the same but tbh your better off that he did, your a much better side now.
The £1 million in my eyes shouldn't have gone to the other clubs. Not trying to make excuses but we've already had our sky money cut, so other clubs receiving the money we lose is always going to put us at a disadvantage. I'm not fussed about the money advantage....the talking is done on the pitch however the rightful thing for the RFL to do with that £1 million (that the Bulls won't be receiving) was to help the businesses that our former owners owed money to.....the ones that needed the money most especially in this economic climate.
*Cue some idiot saying Bulls are complaining blah blah*'"
Stop complaining you idiot
Jeez, what happened to this once great game of Rugby League.
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