Certainly not when you take the other factors into consideration.

NGB4C will be Agar's high profile signing next year

Exactly and the way he's starting to get made into a scapegoat is sad to say the least and I thought SOME of our fans were better than that tbh. There's been some far better and more experienced players than Isaac, that have made the move to the other side of the world and taken far longer to settle and find their feet both playing wise and personally wise, just look at guys like Finch, Richards, Chase and how long it took them. The kid deserves a break and needs supporting fully, it's not as if he's even been a bad or even close to it, it's just that he hasn't found his confidence yet.
We've obviously brought him over to develop him further because he's got a heap of talent, young and hasn't played much first grade at all. He isn't going to do that by sending him down to the second team after 4 games or even 6 or 7, we need to look long term with him.

Now that I'd love to see!!

Like I keep hinting to you there is a club about 8 miles in this direction from BV that would be thankful of your support as far as I am concerned you are an internet keyboard warrior.

Give him more time and support him, no point knocking anyone at this stage.

Oh how i'd like the club to set up a competition between you two!

We're four games in for Gods sake, neither Smith nor John have been dreadful (kicking game apart maybe), both have shown signs that there are things there to work with, both have set up tries (remember Johns sweet short ball to a charging ali v widnes ngb4c??) and admittedly both haven't been outstanding. Lets give them some time to settle in and support them rather than bag them from the off.

i had a giggle at that but bill arthurs didn't seem to notice.

Indeed - neither did Barry Macdermotts.

Good point, and one that's sadly often overlooked. It isn't easy starting out in a foreign country, thousands of miles away from what you know. It isn't easy switching from winter rugby in a mild climate to summer rugby at -°7C, when you hardly know your team mates or the style of game that's played. As a young bloke in that situation, the least you could expect is a little understanding and support. People should get off his back and let him grow into our game, FFS. I reckon he'll come good.

It strikes me that some of these lads, including coaches, come over here without realising how tough and intense weekly SL games are; maybe they get taken in by some of the superiority complex that afflicts the Aussies when it comes to RL or maybe it's just a bit of naivety? Either way, he's come from playing the majority of his RL in the lower grades on t'other side of the world and has been chucked into a pivotal position in one of the struggling teams - all that whilst trying to adjust to life in sunny Wakey, which will be worlds away from what he's used to.

It's telling that old-stagers like Southern, Patten and their ilk can slot in to the rugby pretty easily, meaning they only have the lifestyle to adjust to; they're pretty comfortable getting knocked to bits on the field every week, as they've been doing it tough in the NRL for years.

I still think we need to recruit a kicker and give John a few starts off the bench, for confidence reasons, but what we certainly don't need to do is allow a few morons to give him the impression that the fans are not appreciating what he's trying to do; if his confidence is shakey, that's the last thing he needs.

I'll keep a close eye on whether or not the next English youngster gets the same leeway given to Isaac John, should be interesting.