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I thought we won the first half and without that ridiculous decision to call a forward pass - which, incidentally, was the touch judge's intervention and Thaler's grimace when it was replayed on the big screen showed that even he knew it was wrong - we would have gone in at half time with a lead.

The second half was dire - they'd obviously spotted Mellars defensive weakness and BJ was given all the time in the world to kick us to death; someone needed to shoot out of the line and smash him to bits, but they stood off him; for me, those three quick try's they scored can be attributed to Mellars - Cockayne was totally exposed every time.

Other observations - Bradford should have had a man in the bin in the first half for repeated high shots; Lulia never made a single tackle below the neck for the entire game. And that last try was in no way the result of a forward pass - another bad call.

In the end, discipline and poor defence in the second half cost us a very winnable game; and we desperately need a kicker.

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Terrible disapline, awful defensive structure from kicks and a complete lack of a plan b. Agar has a lot of work to do. I don't want to bag the guy as i think he has talent but Issac John looks way down on confidence, it seems to me rhe goalkicking is affecting him. We sre playing with one halfback at the minute and we need more from one of our imports. Can anybody remind me why we released Gareth Moore again cos i reckon thats looking like a bit of a cock up.

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Quote: Theboyem "Terrible disapline, awful defensive structure from kicks and a complete lack of a plan b. Agar has a lot of work to do. I don't want to bag the guy as i think he has talent but Issac John looks way down on confidence, it seems to me rhe goalkicking is affecting him. We sre playing with one halfback at the minute and we need more from one of our imports. Can anybody remind me why we released Gareth Moore again cos i reckon thats looking like a bit of a cock up.'"



Young and english i heard.

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Quote: Theboyem "Terrible disapline, awful defensive structure from kicks and a complete lack of a plan b. Agar has a lot of work to do. I don't want to bag the guy as i think he has talent but Issac John looks way down on confidence, it seems to me rhe goalkicking is affecting him. We sre playing with one halfback at the minute and we need more from one of our imports. Can anybody remind me why we released Gareth Moore again cos i reckon thats looking like a bit of a cock up.'"


Totally agree with you here,you can see the confidence drain from the lad everytime he steps up and will surley effect his on field play. Mentioned well before the season started that it will bite us not having a recognised kicker and Agar's answer apparently (at an audience with) was that they were bringing specialist coaches in teach him!! I had 8 years piano lessons but I was still #$%* . You have either got it or you ain't.

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just watched the game back and slept on last nights game before commenting, my view is probably over the top but, IMO we need to get rid of Smith and John as i cant see after the 3 games so far what they have to offer

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Quote: Theboyem "Terrible disapline, awful defensive structure from kicks and a complete lack of a plan b. Agar has a lot of work to do. I don't want to bag the guy as i think he has talent but Issac John looks way down on confidence, it seems to me rhe goalkicking is affecting him. We sre playing with one halfback at the minute and we need more from one of our imports. Can anybody remind me why we released Gareth Moore again cos i reckon thats looking like a bit of a cock up.'"

I can tell you Gareth Moore has played 2 1/2 games for Batley so far this season and scored 44 points, he has kicked 18 goals and 2 tries ? And 3 man of the matches in 3 games to go with it, He has brought a great kicking game with him and is ripping it up in that division, I can tell you Richard Agar hated the kid on a personal matter nothing to do with his rugby ability from day 1, I speak with Gareth regular and he told me Agar made his time under him hell'' driving him out, he used to put him on the wing in training ? He was the best kicker at that club by a mile over the sticks and in field, And Mr Agar shown why many people on his site question his ability as a super league coach !!! icon_beat.gif

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Not saying the lad lacks quality but its ok scoring 44 points in that league against a lower quality.Agar might have had a thing against him but has Moore a chip on his shoulder.The other thing I ask is why is he still not at Leeds as I would have thought they would want to keep him if he was a cracker jack.Hes not a bad player but aint done it in Super league yet.

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His goal kicking would have been handy but give it a rest, he wouldn't have made next to no difference in the games that have been played. All this stuff about Agar having a personal problem with him, I don't buy for one moment either, if he was good enough he would be playing, end of and we all know doing well in the division below is meaningless at this level.

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I live in Beverley and mix with Hull fans. I've heard it all already. Agar is out of his depth and I SANK in my heart when our newly floated ship put him in as captain. And that game confirms my fears and will take a lot of recoveing from

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Quote: charlie63wildcat "I live in Beverley and mix with Hull fans. I've heard it all already. Agar is out of his depth and I SANK in my heart when our newly floated ship put him in as captain. And that game confirms my fears and will take a lot of recoveing from'"

I wouldn't take it too seriously so soon. OK we SHOULD have been three wins up now but last season there weren't any matches (from memory) where we could say 'we should have won that'.
I honestly think the team will get better but more time needed. Sort out the discipline and definitely the goalkicking and there IS the potential there to win.
At least your lucky in the respect that you can go back to Beverley after the game!

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Quote: Shifty Cat "His goal kicking would have been handy but give it a rest, he wouldn't have made next to no difference in the games that have been played. All this stuff about Agar having a personal problem with him, I don't buy for one moment either, if he was good enough he would be playing, end of and we all know doing well in the division below is meaningless at this level.'"



It does happen in all walks of life, boss for whatever reason takes a dislike to a employee and once that happens you only have one winner. It matters not if this person is good at the job.

I have no idea if that happened or not but don't kid yourself that everything that happens is for the good of the team/club.

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