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| I hope the Newmarket decision announcement is made before the 'backstop' date of 30th May. Can you imagine the nerves etc if the announcement hasn't been made prior to that date
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| Quote: kinleycat "Just for a minute, imagine you're explaining this to a five year old.
If the LDF comes out before the PI, does that negate the need for a PI?
If the LDF increases the overall size of the development, does that make it more likely to mean a positive outcome?
Has the SoS purposely given the LDF time to be approved so that he doesnt need to make a decision and it looks like the big society in action?
Keep it simple, and short, if you can!!!
1. No, the PI is a seperate decision, although it would be helpful if the LDF outcome came out first and was positive.
2. If extra land was taken out of greenbelt then it would be an advantage and make a positive outcome more likely. There is NO guarentee that this is the case though and I personally would be surprised if this happened at this point. You never know though for the reasons IA has stated above.
3. Officially no but, unofficially, yes quite possibly! This looks to me like a move to help smooth the way for a positive decision. The two may be seperate events but the fact that they are intrinsically linked won't have gone unnoticed.
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| A friend of mine who has been involved in these type of things in the past says the 106 agreement is crucial. I seem to recall Pickles asking about that.
Can you confirm the current situation with the 106 agreement IA please? Is this now set in stone and is the stadium going to be built first?
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| If the LDF enquiry is positive, it would seem to be politically nonsensical for the PI to contradict it; furthermore, if WMDC jumps through the appropriate hoops in terms of complying with the requirements of the Localism bill, it would again appear to be counterintuitive for the PI to go against us.
I know that common sense doesn't always apply in politics or planning issues, but one does get the feeling that ducks are being quietly lined up. Roll on May.
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| Quote: "Report submitted to Secretary of State 16 March 2012
Decision issued (Secretary of State cases) 30 May 2012 '"
Over two months for the secretary of state to make a decision?? what do they do these people?? I hope he gets a move on!!
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| Quote: Wakefield No 1 "Over two months for the secretary of state to make a decision?? what do they do these people?? I hope he gets a move on!!'"
Inbox 1 month, quick skeg, outbox 1 month.
Its not suprise the county is on its knees.
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| Quote: Inflatable_Armadillo "
The only questions that remains, is will the LDF finish before the PI or the PI before the LDF! Who knows!'"
I'm led to believe the LDF report is now expected to be made public in June so will miss the deadline for the Newmarket enquiry. As i've stated before though I have no doubt that information will have been passed between the two prior to publication.
In other news it appears the importance of a positve outcome is crucial as I understand that, subject to ratification, Opus have a buyer lined up for Wheldon Road. Not at the same monetary value as previously hoped but significant nonetheless. Featherstone are also making big noises about continued ground development in order to provide a robust superleague application in 2014.
Interesting times, I would love to see all three clubs prospering at the top level.
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| Quote: sixtogo "I'm led to believe the LDF report is now expected to be made public in June so will miss the deadline for the Newmarket enquiry.'"
"There will be a 6 week consultation period followed by an additional hearing session. No dates have been confirmed yet, but the consultation period is likely to start towards the end of February or early March. Following this stage the Council expects to receive the Inspectors report in the Summer."
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| Quote: bigalf ""There will be a 6 week consultation period followed by an additional hearing session. No dates have been confirmed yet, but the consultation period is likely to start towards the end of February or early March. Following this stage the Council expects to receive the Inspectors report in the Summer."'"
The consultation period is available for any changes made following the latest round of hearings for the LDF. It's all a little frustrating and not what we would have chosen, but we remain confident that the right outcome will occur.
The proposed time for the publishing of the final LDF is June. With the Planning Application PI report due 'on or before 30th May' - clearly there is a lack of co-ordination, but no-one is under any illusions here that one will not take account of the other. It would be ludicrous to have conflicting outcomes, therefore they will both either approve or not approve NM.
As sixtogo mentions, there does seem to be some mechanism being put in place which may allow Cas' to move on with their own development and it may yet work out that we have the opportunity for 2 new grounds - which would be perfect IMO (but I know others won't agree! ).
Keep the faith!
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| Quote: sixtogo "
Interesting times, I would love to see all three clubs prospering at the top level.'"
Seriously doubt that will ever happen, the RFL won't allow it. Long term I firmly believe there will be just one team from the Wakefield district in the top divvision, in what guise that team is remains to be seen.
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| The futures good for our City's premier sporting club no need to worry TRINITY FOREVER
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| Quote: M62 J30 TRINITY "The futures good for our City's premier sporting club no need to worry TRINITY FOREVER'"
While your optimism is to be applauded there is every reason not to get over confident. If the PI goes in our favour then you're right the future is bright. If it doesn't then the future is quite frankly bleak. And the result is far from a foregone conclusion. In fact without the LDF report backing it up in time its 50-50, so cross everything and hope for the best.
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| Im not over confident and won't be until we start building I think the swag wording is confident but not complacent. It's been a long process and hopefully all the jigsaw pieces will fall into place. If the unthinkable happens and our city & club doesn't get the sports facilities and jobs it deserves it won't be the end like some of our rival fans hope the club will get the stadium this city needs but NM is our best chance ever
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| I am just emerging from my sick bed where, unfortunately, I have been since last Thursday!
Just to clarify a few things, the key issue now in respect of the LDF is the minor amendments that will be made to the report, which will be then reissued for consultation in just a few weeks, probably end of Feb/early March. As I have said, I am fairly certain that when Wakefield publishes the amendments, not only will Newmarket still be contributing 51ha of B8 in the LDF, but one of the amendments will be to move the greenbelt boundary at Newmarket and slightly increase the amount of land taken out of greenbelt! Currently, the proposal takes 58ha of land out of greenbelt to supply 51ha of develop-able B8 but for technical, access and defensible greenbelt boundary reasons, that were discussed at the hearings, they will increase this by around 1ha. The B8 quantum will remain 51ha and the greenbelt land area will nor be around 59ha.
Will we will know if I am correct in just a few weeks and it is this that will be the massive indication that Newmarket will indeed be taken out of greenbelt.... because it is the best option and the inspector agrees!
The consultation is JUST on the amendments BTW and nothing more. So, if I am right, in this case objections would have to be about the reasoning for taking this extra bit of land out of greenbelt and nothing more. Of course, I suspect that will not stop some people trying to comment on the whole site once again but those comments will be simply dismissed as out of time!
I don't know, but I don't think it is a coincidence that a date of 30th May has been given for the issuing of the PI. As I have said, I don't think anyone should expect a decision until 30th May but by that time the amended LDF will have gone through 6 weeks of consultation and that would give Mrs Bussey enough time to issue her draft report to the SoS office before the 30th May.
I am almost certain that the SoS and his Senior Civil Servants are not going to put themselves, the current government and the Planning Inspectorate in the highly embarrassing position of making conflicting decisions just weeks apart... it makes no sense!
This land is and always has been the best choice for the B8 against the alternatives and the SoS will not want to then throw the baby out out with the bath water!
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| And.......breathe.........
It's doing me bonce in all this!!
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