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Quote: vastman "Yeah let's just make it up as we go along shall we. Johnson is an out and out prop and anyone can see that. I can't for the life of me see how you get Amor as an established SL prop. He'd barely played a game until we rescued him. He's no further down the track than Johnson. They are both good IMHO and come the real season will give Leululai plenty to think about. Give your head a shake and wait and see and give them a chance.'"


Oh ok then I will give my head a shake but you give yours a shake if we hit injuries to Amor and Johnson because I think you will find that what we can then put at prop will get ripped to pieces by a lot of SL teams!

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Quote: PopTart "We don't need an impact prop anymore in my opinion, we need a tackle buster and momentum builder. Not the same thing.
Physical size does matter but not at the expense of the rest of the game.

I'd like to see Kylie play for us, or even a young Korki, but if they are not there I don't want a big fat prop just for the sake of it.
Peacock isn't exactly big in weight and size nor was Fielden. It isn't just a matter of getting a giant, it's a momentum builder we need. They come in all shapes and sizes.'"

Basically a Tronc, only without the personal issues.

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Quote: Khlav Kalash "Basically a Tronc, only without the personal issues.'"


I'd be ok with that icon_smile.gif

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Quote: sandaltrinityfan "Oh ok then I will give my head a shake but you give yours a shake if we hit injuries to Amor and Johnson because I think you will find that what we can then put at prop will get ripped to pieces by a lot of SL teams!'"


Would that not apply to any team.

We have 3 props in Amor, Wilkes and Johnson and two more in Raliegh and James as back up and a couple of youngsters. It's as good as most. Even Saints or Leeds would struggle if they lost there first choice props. You are just creating an issue that isn't there. Yes another big prop would be very nice, and that would apply to at least ten other clubs.

Wilkes is 6'2" and 17 stone by the way and thus is bigger than Amor (6'2" 16 1/2 stone) or Johnson and has way more experience. Andy Raleigh is exactly the same size as Amor whilst James is the same height and just 2lbs lighter.

Kyle Leululai is 5'10" and 17 stone 2 lbs and thus a smaller specimen than Wilkes.

These are the stats like it or not. Of course there is more than just size that makes a prop. The main one is ticker and certainly Wilkes, Amor, Johnson and Raleigh have proved not to be short of that.

As I say fans make it up as they go along to suit their particular issue, real or imagined.

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Quote: Khlav Kalash "Basically a Tronc, only without the personal issues.'"


I'd have a Stosic - just as he was! eusa_wall.gif

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Quote: TRB "
Quote: TRB "Basically a Tronc, only without the personal issues.'"


I'd have a Stosic - just as he was! Agreed, but it would be better if he had a Serbian passport!

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Stosic is the best prop we've had in years, better than Tronc in many ways, obviously not as eye catching but certainly more reliable, solid and one of those players that allowed his team mates to play their best rugby while he did the graft.
If we had a James Stosic in the team alongside Southern there wouldn't be many teams that would enjoy attacking us down the middle.

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Quote: PopTart "We don't need an impact prop anymore in my opinion, we need a tackle buster and momentum builder. Not the same thing.
Physical size does matter but not at the expense of the rest of the game.

I'd like to see Kylie play for us, or even a young Korki, but if they are not there I don't want a big fat prop just for the sake of it.
Peacock isn't exactly big in weight and size nor was Fielden. It isn't just a matter of getting a giant, it's a momentum builder we need. They come in all shapes and sizes.'"


Mark O'Meley would be my ideal choice, in an ideal world.

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With interchanges being reduced I feel the teams with the bigger impact props wil struggle this year like you Warrington's, Leeds, Dragons and so on. And lets also not forget the unlimited interchanges on Saturday.

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Johnson needs more size to be called a out and out prop no way. Wilkes and Amour ; James is he upto SL standard,? Jury is out for me . As for Hickey we didn't no he would come like Homer Simpson; if he was fit he would have been a good signing.

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Quote: newgroundb4cas "Johnson needs more size to be called a out and out prop no way. Wilkes and Amour ; James is he upto SL standard,? Jury is out for me . As for Hickey we didn't no he would come like Homer Simpson; if he was fit he would have been a good signing.'"

Didn't you once complain Stosic was too small a few pre-season's back?!

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Quote: frogcat "ewan is going to play in aus mate. him and richard never saw eye to eye anyway but you are right. we have no front row to speak of.apart from kyle who could be called back anytime it suits leeds . trouble is we are trying to put second rowers up front and they are getting battered as they did in catalans. said weeks ago before we released the props we had, don't throw the baby out with the bath water. there is no one around to pick up now thats good enough.'"


No Leeds can't call Amor back anytime it suits them.

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Quote: Sesquipedalian "Stosic is the best prop we've had in years, better than Tronc in many ways, obviously not as eye catching but certainly more reliable, solid and one of those players that allowed his team mates to play their best rugby while he did the graft.
If we had a James Stosic in the team alongside Southern there wouldn't be many teams that would enjoy attacking us down the middle.'"


Which many ways was Stosic better than Tronc?

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Quote: Shifty Cat "Which many ways was Stosic better than Tronc?'"


He was fit, settled and did the job he was supposed to do. That's 3 straight away!

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Quote: TRB "He was fit, settled and did the job he was supposed to do. That's 3 straight away!'"


Tronc was fit while he was here, the rest is unfortunate that he didn't settle here but that doesn't take away from what a player he was, he was world class imo.

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