do you seriously think that a head coach would not be aware of such an issue before the CEO ?
I think now the people have been advised of their bans, there may me a can of worms opened

i think your point kind of misses the point, or maybe it just shows your inability to understand what information has been released. there is no suggestion that agar was or wasn't aware of the issue following the test. however rule has been banned for his handling of the situation. until we know what that handling was, then it's best to shut up.

there has been no suggestion that agar acted in any way that was not appropriate. personally i think the judgement raises more questions than it answers, i would like to know just how james rule managed to incurr a two year ban - the mind boggles as to what the daft bugger was playing at.

if this is club organised, and covered up, as suggested by the HDM story - how many points deduction will HFC start with do you think?

I know that protocol dictates that only the people DIRECTLY involved i.e. the accused and the CEO of the club are officially notified by the Governing body and UKADA of a failed test.

Whether it was commonly known within the club before that is only your speculation.

it's out there now. rule conspired to help gleeson lie about the circumstances of how the controlled substance got in his body. it's on sky's website.

The documents make for interesting reading; www.ukad.org.uk/anti-doping-rule ... iolations/ Gleeson got the pills from a Mr Sean Long!

The documents make for interesting reading; www.ukad.org.uk/anti-doping-rule ... iolations/ Gleeson got the pills from a Mr Sean Long!

it's a common name. it won't be the same one that was involved in the betting scandal with mr gleeson.....

I think basically Rule came up with the idea for Cooper to take the blame so that Gleeson would get a lesser punishment.

I know of people directly involved in this and there is a great deal of resentment about concerning this case. It's not suprising that there has been an overhaul of all aspects of the backroom at Hull. The management of this case has been shambolic. I think more may well come out in the wash.

In relation to Sean Long I understand his dad shares the same name and owns a sports suppliment supplier.

I bet there's a boat load of players using suppliments that have not been properly checked out by the support staff.

I think a recently retired hooker is counting his lucky stars at the treatment he got when he was caught under the exact same circumstances a number of years ago. It's situations like this that highlight just how badly run out sport is.

I thought hid dad was called Bernard and had already been banned for life from working within Rugby League

It clearly states he got them from his team mate Sean Long.

This entire process is run by the independent body that the RFL, and many other NGBs have signed up to, including our national Olympic body.

Still, don't let that stop you clever clogs. Bet Sean long is stunned about finding out who his new dad is too!