Do you really believe that?

Apparently we have improved since the last license up to the highest grade in commercial, community and youth. The new facilities 'guaranteed' for Belle Vue including cover and seating makes our improvement up to A/B (with an A grade ground as a back-up) from a low C and we are now sustainable as a business.

So how come the WT supporters on this board are so negative regarding our application?

But there is an anti tamper deadline that I don't think we have yet passed and therefore he should not be touting his players around, and other clubs should be respecting that too and not circling like vultures.

Yes, I do believe that. That's what licensing was all about; progression, stability and improvement. I believe that on the whole, the majority of clubs have done improved in the licensing period. Some still have considerable weakenesses but ultimately, that will pull their bids down.

Unfortunately, it's not based on the last 3/4 months but the whole three years.

mr shuttleworth does indeed have a duty of care to his clients and to the club's to whom he provides services. however it seems to me that he's made his mind up how things are going to go on franchise day, and that agents like him have an opportunity to cash in as big and as quickly as they could be considered to be making the situation at belle vue worse than it needs to be for this and next year. he could be considered complicit in our inability to even talk to players about contracts if what is rumoured is true.

the fact that you enjoyed shuttleworth’s company is of no relevance to this thread. i keep being told he’s a fan, but i’ve always viewed him as a rugby union man, first, second and third. he’s an agent so i’d guess that he likes money, and that is his motivation for being close to the club. in my broad view agents same throughout sport: manipulative, duplicitous and when it comes down to it callous.

I wish we could give 110% in the last few games of the season and pick up a few surprise wins to take us above Quins. How ridiculous would it look if we were given the chop after finishing above Crusaders and especially Quins with our 4 point deduction? The 2 points dropped at Quins was our big chance of getting anywhere near.

That Quins game was massive. I believe had we won that we would have capitulated in the last 3 games like we have.

do we have a vacancy entitled "short d union stooge"?