I think you could give him all the money in the world but our tactic's would still be 5h1te

Slater.

I am a well voiced Kear detractor and I take issue with your comment above. Just because I don't think Kear is the right man for the job anymore and his tactics and team selections are baffling why does that make me unintelligent and not knowledgeable.

I have articulated my reasons for why he should go, you try and explain why you think I and IMO other intelligent and knowledgeable fans who share my view are wrong. Even TRB who is one of the few people on here you seem to respect has questioned the way we are being coached etc.. Are you now questioning his intelligence and knowledge?

I despair, I really do - have you not noticed what's happened to the club, do you not read the team sheet - the fact that we have any points is a miracle.

Still I'll indulge you and I'm up for a laugh - who are these coaches who would have done better?

Oh and it's 7 wins unless cup matches don't count anymore

What a crock of crap, I know TRB personally and much as I admire his work for the club I would never consider him overly knowledgeable as regards the game and nor would he. His opinion is no more valuable than yours or mine, frankly your post has made me feel ill it's so fake.

Don't use another poster to make your point or put words in his mouth. TRB being unhappy with certain elements of our game does not equate to him wanting Kear gone.

Some posters on here seem to be suggesting they are in the majority regarding Kear not being the man for the job, I dispute that.

Why do I need to name a coach who could do better. You tell me where my arguments about us under Kear are wrong. There is a consensus amongst some of our intelligent and knowledgable fans that the players we have could do more than the mind numbingly boring 5 drives and a kick play which we have under Kear.

In addition, I view the fact that we seem to have issues with doing the basics right, picking the right players in the right positions, using the interchange bench properly as all things within the coaching staffs remit. Kear does not appear to be able to handle any of these areas correctly and has failed to address them.

I don't care what you say about the squad we have, there are some good SL standard players in it, including young players who have come from good rugby league environments (sts/wigan) and the sqaud can do more than they are doing in terms of playing, particularly in attack, if the coaching staff allow it. We also allowed one of our more experienced half backs to leave mid term (a decision ratified by Kear). Yes Jeffries may be inconsistent but he certainly would add something different if he were still here.

We need to attract new fans and will not do so playing so negatively and still losing by a significant margin.

Some of the points made above were also in TRB's comments on another thread. I will ask you again, in your opinion does that make him unintelligent and not knowledgeable.

No suprise an abusive retort from Vastman. All I said was TRB's comments questioned the coaching? Do they or don't they? Have you actually read them?I never said he wanted Kear gone.

What is fake about my post - I am a true supporter of the club and want what is best for it.

Anyone who read Eric Ashtons book will remember that he said one of the greatest mistakes he made was to remain as coach at saints for more than three seasons. He then explains how player/coach relationship can get stale etc. He also states that no matter how good the coach is when his time is up he should go. You may think that is a little harsh but saints have stuck to that policy for years and have been the most consistent club in the country as a result of it.

JK did a great job when he arrived with a team he inherited. However since he arrived I think he has made some howlers in recruitment and also players he could have signed but never did. All that apart he was also looking to leave last season and got the job with Les Cats. So hand on heart John would probabaly say a change would also do him good.

I would say, thanks for the job you have done and lest all move on.

Because you're attempting to talk for him as far as I can see and using his reservations to fuel your argument and exaggerating it. I to share some of his reservations but I don't quote him for credibility.

Only JK has the enough access to the team that allows any real grasp of the tactics this team requires. 7 wins suggests to me that all things considered he's doing OK. If you honestly think this team is capable of more wins then your deluded IMO. Yes we could be more expansive and creative and we may well be more entertaining - in fact we may have won a few extra games. The down side is we'd have lost some that our negative tactics won us. Our biggest problem is not our attack it's our defence, we scored enough points to beat London but we gave far more away, that is nothing to do with negative football.

Using TRB to give your argument some respectability is pathetic. I might as well say 2x Ccup winner Kear is happy with his team then in your top trumps world I win hands down.

I to would like to see certain players get more chances, for as long as I can remember I've wanted many Trinity sides under many coaches to exploit the width of BV and the pacy wingers we seem to always have but never use. There is a simple reason though as to why we don't and never have. We are a poor club and can't afford or keep the players to make it happen IMO. Do you think if Kear still had the likes of Brough in his team he wouldn't want to play more open Rugby.

Sometimes you need to think long term, Kear is trying to produce a base for a team of the future and that takes more than half a season, something fans never seem to grasp.

You look at NRL clubs, often they will plod along for years then explode into life, often with the same player and coach. It's how they work, they build and some sustain it some don't but it happens.

The team we have now may look very dull on occasion but with another season under their belt and a few additions and all that may change. You want to risk that because we were beaten by a team away from home who despite their poor run are hardly rubbish.

Yes you do need to tell me your options for an alternative coach, if you can't you clearly have no argument at all you're just moaning.
You name me an alternative and I'll give you a fair response.

As for BJ, yes it's a strange one and I didn't like it but I don't know the full facts and neither do you.

Eric Ashton coached in a completely different era, I don't think it's relevant.

Kear may well not lead us to victory and he will go eventually but now is not the time. Any coach we take on now would inherit a poison chalice. Kear has created a team from nothing, his real test is when he has the money for something, then and only then should he be judged. It's a new regime with new ways of doing things. If AG is what people say then Kear above all others deserves a chance to benefit - he deserves at least a season if we retain SL.