Danny Mcguire, i would have agreed a few years ago, but as he has got older he has become more than just a support runner and you only have to look how much better the Leeds side is with him in it. Ive lost count of the number of times he has won them games on his own with a match winning try or assist and that includes semis and major finals which is when the true top class players come into there own.

Mcnamara is the big one for me. I thought he played his best rugby at Hull when he was young and they were playing him at prop just before he left. After that i thought he was average in a very good Bradford side. He played under so many good coaches who had him in the side everyweek, but i just could not see what he offered?? What was i missing???

Player that i thought was average until they signed for Wakey and i got to watch them every week and realised i was wrong = Mike Forshaw. Did he not keep us up on his own 1 year?? Even playing SO in parts?!

Player that i thought was average before they signed and then realised i was right = Julian O'Neill/Jeremy Smith

Player that i thought was good until they signed at which point i realised they were average = Ged Byrne

For me if Wellens had 2 yards more pace he would have being world class
Agree ref Sinfield

That counts with a lot of players to be fair. Personally I think Wellens limitations are well known so I do get him.

Sinfield, yep someone please tell me what he's about - he's good but not that good.

Sinfield has a good kicking game and can kick goals but other than that is not that good IMO.

I thought Sculthorpe was top quality add to that him putting Baily on his backside with 1 punch then he was one of my non Wakey favoutites!

If a good leader is a player who gets sent off just before half time in the most important game in the clubs recent history leaving his team mates who he is supposed to be setting a good example to one player short for 40 minutes then you are right .

Billy Conway was a great defender but if could in forward too.

This was my first thought.

darryl powell for me how this guy played 30 odd times for great britain is unbelievable one of the most over rated players ever

For Darryl Powell see Mick Foreshaw.

That's the sort I'm after, deffo in the McNamara mode and like him managed to pull off the same trick in management - incredible.

No way, Forshaw was great for us and Leeds and blossomed in his later career - for me Powell didn't he was just bland.

Most of Leeds home grown players!

They all have an inflated and unjustified sense of their own worth, they carry themselves like they're something special and wear that chav like smirk on their faces.

Reality is they're pretty crap but get bailed out by quality signings that the club puts in the team around them.

I hate Leeds!