I agree with that.

None of which are 6's.

Tony - Is he still around? Is he fit? Is he a stand off?
Smith - Please
Moore - Too small for Superleague
Wildie - Scrum half in a year or 2

Why oh why does this thread keep occuring, for gods sake give the lad a chance, as has already been said he won us game at the jungle and kept his nerve against hull to score in the last second, yes, today he was poor but he's young and WILL improve. If you need a scape goat what about Griffin who was pulling air in from barnsley all through the second half or howarth who missed more tackles than could be counted.

He is young and given time he will develop into a good player. Yes he wasn't at his best today but was was awesome against them on good friday and also was excellent against Hull KR.

i think he will be sitting the catalans game out for certain

Tony is finished he wont be figuring much, Smith does not seem to be interested really
Moore we will see....dont buy into too small, (Burrow, Obst, Brough, Deacon etc).
Dont think Kear agrees with your comments - lets comment once he has been in a full time
enviroment for a few weeks and has got up to speed.
Wildie will be future first choice hooker he does not have a great kicking game or great
creativity and is more dangerous at hooker looking for gaps and making fast yards

IMHO i have seen very little to suggest he has the potential to improve and develop into a stand off. His kicking game is poor,his passing game is poor and too many times the move just dies when the ball gets to his hands.

Griffin and Howarth may well have been poor today,but we havent just released our only recognised players in their positions.

Yes BJ was erratic,but you knew he could do it on occassions,im afraid Hyde is way out of his depth and would struggle to hold down a regular stand off spot in the championship.

Agree with some of the above. Hyde seems to have a poor kicking game and his decision making is poor also. I dont think he will be a SL player of the future. Same with Griffin unforunately too. I think Howarth could be a really good 13. Just needs a bit more timber on his back imo as his passing in tight spaces is very good .

Jesus Christ the bull that's coming out of some people tonight - "Hyde won't be SL player of the future", you weren't bloody saying that after cas away! vievers has joined us from wigan academy as has howarth - they ain't exactly going to light the world on fire but they are improving. a month or so ago we were fully supporting these lads and now because we're out of the cup we're slamming them with these comment ! talk about giving the team a morale boost!

i judge this years team on progression, not on wins alone,

beaten by cas at cardiff, since then returned the favour and then gone to extra time in the cup, only beaten by Wigan 0-26 at home,(look at last years result), yes we need something, but Kieran Hyde is trying to create that and sometimes has, i would like to bet my all time hero toppo wasn't 110% all of the time even he may have slipped to 98% but he was not scrutinised this much.

Agreed. Effort is not the issue. But the lack of good decision making all over, last tackle options and lack of real cutting edge in attack is. As you say is some are more like NL players but are playing and giving absolute effort worty of SL standard.