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Quote: Come On The Trin "Agree 100%

Veivers shouldn't be anywhere near the first 17. Simply not good enough yet IMHO.

What has Annakin got to do to get a chance? Shocking call from JK not to put Gledhill or Annakin on the bench.

Re Hendo - sorry but he is not a prop. If I was Annakin or Gledhill I would be deeply frustrated Mr Average is keeping me out of the starting 17'"
what are you talking about mate hendo plays prop better than either gledhill or annakin like both of the lads but gledhill gets knocked back in nearly every colision not got the power or the strenght needs more time so dose annakin dont thnik the bench made much diffrance today. Game changed when we didnt reach touch with the penalty leeds had a good 10 mins in which they got 2 trys of the back of 5 penaltys thought kears selection wasnt far off and niether was the boy today score defanetly didnt reflect the game a few dogie desicions form childs cost us alot grate to see the fans behind john and the boys twas

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Quote: altofts wildcat "Yes they were but i think that it was only because Morrison went off with what looked like a knock.'"


Pity, it was a crucial time on top of the ref evening up the penalty count, as we knew he would after half time.

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Quote: Miro "Pity, it was a crucial time on top of the ref evening up the penalty count, as we knew he would after half time.'"


I even said to someone at half time that i bet he will penalise us lots in the second half in order to try and even up the penalty count.

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JK is doing great with this set of players. Not his fault he we didnt find touch with that kick that changed the game. However i do agree. Murphy as the potential to be a GB fullback wish we would stop messing him about hes gonna be a world class FB. We missed kings umppppppppphhhhhh today. And Danny brough lol. Jeffries please take the line on once in a while!

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Agree with your comment re Jeffries today. Last week at Hull he took them on and had a great game. Looked like he was carrying a knock for me. Wish JK would give Wildie a bit more game time. 20mins isn't enough and he's clearly good enough to play longer

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Quote: Uptoncat "Agree with your comment re Jeffries today. Last week at Hull he took them on and had a great game. Looked like he was carrying a knock for me. Wish JK would give Wildie a bit more game time. 20mins isn't enough and he's clearly good enough to play longer'"


Agreed. Game was gone when he brought Wildie on as well, and the players who had been playing more game time then they should have been because of the selection and interchange policy were too knackered to give him any sort of platform to work from.

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Quote: cool4kats "what are you talking about mate hendo plays prop better than either gledhill or annakin like both of the lads but gledhill gets knocked back in nearly every colision not got the power or the strenght needs more time so dose annakin dont thnik the bench made much diffrance today. Game changed when we didnt reach touch with the penalty leeds had a good 10 mins in which they got 2 trys of the back of 5 penaltys thought kears selection wasnt far off and niether was the boy today score defanetly didnt reflect the game a few dogie desicions form childs cost us alot grate to see the fans behind john and the boys twas'"


I agree as far as Hendo, he might not be the biggest, but he makes yards and doesn't get knocked back in tackles. We badly missed King today and like you said, the score didn't reflect the game, at all.

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Quote: Tricky2309 "Firstly can I say what a great effort by the team today. Had we been able to convert a couple of the chances in the first half it could have been a different outcome.

However, JK picking Veivers on the bench was ultimately a contributory factor to our fatigue in the 2nd half (as well as the whistle of Mr Childs). It made no sense at all to pick him as a sub - we needed 3 forwards plus Wildie to compete with a big Leeds side.

Neither Veivers or Wildie were used until about 60 mins when the game had got away meaning we had played over an hour just using the same 15 - madness. In addition, why does Kyle Amor only get to play 10 mins here and there whilst Johnson is being asked to do tonnes of work.

Finally, when Veivers came on, it meant wholesale changes with Dean into the pack and Murphy up to centre with veivers slotting in at full back. Murphy's best position is full back and he should stay there.

(Apologies if this has been discussed on the main match thread, but I have only just got home, so not had chance to read it)'"


100% AGREE.

Once again JK shows he has little understanding of modern day coaching techniques.
Its an habitual problem he has - in cocking up the bench.
Often when mistakes are made, you can take comfort that lessons will be learned - not with JK im afraid.
Once again he has shown to completely out of his depth with regards modern day coaching.
I really do fear that the talented youngsters we have will not develop at all under JK.

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Still missing Paul King badly.

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Quote: Shifty Cat "I agree as far as Hendo, he might not be the biggest, but he makes yards and doesn't get knocked back in tackles. We badly missed King today and like you said, the score didn't reflect the game, at all.'"


Its also about how many defenders it takes to bring the bigger forwards down and the wrestle on the floor. Fatigue sets in quicker then.

Also look how some of these bigger forwards defend in the middle.

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Quote: cool4kats "what are you talking about mate hendo plays prop better than either gledhill or annakin like both of the lads but gledhill gets knocked back in nearly every colision not got the power or the strenght needs more time so dose annakin dont thnik the bench made much diffrance today. Game changed when we didnt reach touch with the penalty leeds had a good 10 mins in which they got 2 trys of the back of 5 penaltys thought kears selection wasnt far off and niether was the boy today score defanetly didnt reflect the game a few dogie desicions form childs cost us alot grate to see the fans behind john and the boys twas'"


Hendo is a trier, but as you can see I am not his biggest fan. He tries hard but I'm sure given a little more time so too could the likes of Gledhill & Annakin etc... I would have had Hendo on the bench today but would have also liked to have seen Gledhill or Annakin over Veivers.

I grant you Gledhill & Annakin are not ready yet but that said, my point is if the likes of Annakin & Gledhill can't make the 17 due to someone like Hendo stopping them stepping in and getting a go and some SL experience then that is what upsets me has a fan. Rumour already has it some of our youngsters are getting upset at getting continuously overlooked.

Build for the future and give youth a chance or continue to select players like Hendo. I know what I'd do.

For the money were paying Hendo his wages would contribute massively to youth development within the club in a time where we really need to start planning throughout the club with this in mind. Hendo, Tony & J Smith IMHO should all be shown the door and let us build for the future, build British!

Agreed re game changed comment. Said the same on another thread elsewhere.

Looking forward to the next game already...

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[quotewhat are you talking about mate hendo plays prop better than either gledhill or annakin like both of the lads but gledhill gets knocked back in nearly every colision not got the power or the strenght needs more time so dose annakin dont thnik the bench made much diffrance today. Game changed when we didnt reach touch with the penalty leeds had a good 10 mins in which they got 2 trys of the back of 5 penaltys thought kears selection wasnt far off and niether was the boy today score defanetly didnt reflect the game a few dogie desicions form childs cost us alot grate to see the fans behind john and the boys twas'"
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But the point this season of rebuilding is to give these sort of players time and experience.

You see Gledhill very different to me.

People keep going on about the missed touch, to me the game was lost in the first half, we just did not score enough points with the possesion we had.

I can't understand what benefit a full back on the bench is to team.

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Gledhill or Annakin should have played instead of Veivers i think, and Wildie should have been given more time on the field than he did. What is all this about trying to protect Gledhill? This was said last year and this. Whenever i have seen him he has gone well. Earlier on this season didnt he not play a u21s game thursday and backed up again sunday and did ok. When i have seen him it is not like he is getting banjoed every time he takes a ball up and is work rate is very good. Confusing.

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I really hate having a go at JK and do normally defend him. However I have to agree with the general sentiment on here.

I don't think JK gets it wrong because he doesn't understand modern coaching methods, to even suggest that is silly. He clearly does this on purpose and clearly has a plan. Vievers was not a forced selection. Problem is absolutely no one gets it except JK.

I can only conclude Kear is being a smarty pants and actually believes his own legend.

JK give your head a shake, yes you know far more than anyone who posts on here and I mean anyone but you're not god and you can't change the laws of nature. There is no way that a young inexperienced lightweight FB on the bench is a good idea. Gledhill and Anakin may not be a great deal better as they too are young inexperienced and lightweight but at least they play in the positions that normally inhabit the subs bench.

I would hate to see JK sacked but frankly he's sacking himself with these selections and that would be a shame.

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Quote: Richard1 "Gledhill or Annakin should have played instead of Veivers i think, and Wildie should have been given more time on the field than he did. What is all this about trying to protect Gledhill? This was said last year and this. Whenever i have seen him he has gone well. Earlier on this season didnt he not play a u21s game thursday and backed up again sunday and did ok. When i have seen him it is not like he is getting banjoed every time he takes a ball up and is work rate is very good. Confusing.'"


Saturday and Sunday not Thursday and Sunday!

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