is it time for the fans to join together and stand up for the credibility of our game ?

That is all.

Why dont you all answer the questtions.

The game in this counytry at any reasonable level depend on SKY money.

No Sky the game in this country would only be semi professional at best with only three possible teams competing Hull, Leeds, Wigan. No One else would have a look in. They are the only three teams who have the basics of being run profitably or at break even costs.

No sky money menas there would be NO top players left in this country. No McGuire, Tomkins, Eastmond, Richards etc. Not only that but any decent player coming through the ranks would be playing RU by the age of 21.


Sky sell their little boxes all over the countyry, sky's viewing figures show more people watch RL on there little boxes in the south East than Yorkshire.


SKY have said NO Harlequins no sky money ( they are probably the weakest of the three Expansionist teams Celtic and Catalans).

Get rid of expansion teams and get rid of RL as a profesional sport.

That is why i call you all flat cappers. If you were Turkeys you would be looking forward to Christmas.

And before any of you raise the Ken Davy card. I posted 3 years ago that if Huddersfield did not get a franchise but RL was stronger then so be it.


I love RL more than my own team.

started the Christmas cheer early

Durhamgiant - Why don't you answer the question?

This been the backbone of your argument, could you show me a link to where Sky have ever said that?

Catalans expansionist???
The game of league has been played in the South of France for years,nearly all the elite teams are from the South.Allowing Catalans in to Super League had nothing to do with expansion.

I could live with the game being semi - pro and based around M62.That was and is one of the good things about it - you could get to most grounds within a 90 minutes drive to go and support your team.The game was semi pro for years,indeed we were much more successful at international level when semi pro.

Quite frankly i dont give a flying to$$ about expansion.The game has wasted far too much money and time in trying to flog a dead horse.

I dont disagree with what you say about Sky calling the tune,but if my own team fell by the wayside in the name of expansion,i would simply stop watching the game.I love my own team more than RL.

That's a straw man - I don't see anyone calling for expansion teams to be got rid of; rather, people seem to want the RFL to stop treating the RL community like mushrooms and start being transparent and honest about their expansion agenda. If expansion clubs are to stay in at all costs for example, then say so, don't just keep changing the rules to compensate for their latest crises, then issuing disengenuous, woolly statements claiming that everything is a-ok. Or, as my old man is fond of saying, don't pi55 up my back and tell me it's raining.

Aside from all that - can anyone take a lecture about expansion from a Giants fan at all seriously, even if it is a lecture that refutes an argument that no-one was making in the first place?

Hardly a convincing argument for expansion!!!!

An area with NO super league club has more people watching RL on Sky than an area with 5 clubs.
What does that tell you?People will watch something on TV if its entertaining,whether they have a team in their area would seem irrelevant -- as your viewing figures show.
Your very own viewing figures proof that with regards Sky,more people tune in when they dont have a super league club in their area,than if they do.