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| Quote: Sandal Wild Cat "But let's not let facts get in the way of a good old "Wakey bashing".
One thing I did think of today was that the industrial sites (the major point of contention on the face of it) were designated as part of the LDF, which has been ratified by central government already.'"
But you are wrong - The Facts are that The LDF has only just passed the consultation phase (29th September2010).
Nothing has been ratified by Central Government.
The next step isAt this moment in time the whole development site is Green Belt.
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| Quote: allmatt "But you are wrong - The Facts are that The LDF has only just passed the consultation phase (29th September2010).
The next step isAt this moment in time the whole development site is Green Belt.
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41904.jpg "Therefore, surely nothing in life is to be feared, only understood. Apart from getting shanked at the cash machine!"
I love this city,
this is my town.
We get a week out, without a doubt,
gunna sing it out loud.
i love my city
this is my town,
we get a week out, without a doubt,
gunna sing it out loud:41904.jpg |
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| Quote: allmatt "But you are wrong - The Facts are that The LDF has only just passed the consultation phase (29th September2010).
Nothing has been ratified by Central Government.
The next step isAt this moment in time the whole development site is Green Belt.
I never said it wasn't on green belt land just that it had been designated by the LDF, and no the draft of the LDF has been ratified by the previous government.
A draft tends to come before a consultation period, without it what would people be consulted on?
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| We've all been expecting the tories to put a stop to every plan in our northern towns but in their defence the three major projects going on in widnes have all recently been given a go ahead. Have faith that somewhere out there reasonable people are ready to take into account your tight schedule.
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Quote: Sandal Wild Cat "I never said it wasn't on green belt land just that A small part of the whole development site had been designated by the LDF'"
Edited for accuracy
Here is the plan showing the area proposed to be designated employment which would exclude most of the development.
www.wakefield.gov.uk/Planning/Sp ... Employment
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Quote: Sandal Wild Cat "I never said it wasn't on green belt land just that A small part of the whole development site had been designated by the LDF'"
Edited for accuracy
Here is the plan showing the area proposed to be designated employment which would exclude most of the development.
www.wakefield.gov.uk/Planning/Sp ... Employment
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| I hope wakey do get there ground as crusaders should be out but if you live in a quiet road then all of a sudden 20 a so hgv come rumbling down wud u like it cos i wudnt good luck the wildcats
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41904.jpg "Therefore, surely nothing in life is to be feared, only understood. Apart from getting shanked at the cash machine!"
I love this city,
this is my town.
We get a week out, without a doubt,
gunna sing it out loud.
i love my city
this is my town,
we get a week out, without a doubt,
gunna sing it out loud:41904.jpg |
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| Yes the site for the industrial units have been sanctioned for employment (as I said). Which is currently farmland/meadows.
The stadium is to be built on green belt land- which is actually a former colliery. So not really green belt IMO; even if for arguments sake we say it is (which it isn't) a community stadium and sporting facilities are perfect uses for green belt, as the preserve it's use to the public.
So from my prospective the point of contention (the industrial units) are situated on land which has been ratified in draft by the central government. Is this not the point of contention with NIMBY's and the LCC?
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| so I take it allmatt you was one of the four that thought it was that important to turn up on the day to protest against it
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41904.jpg "Therefore, surely nothing in life is to be feared, only understood. Apart from getting shanked at the cash machine!"
I love this city,
this is my town.
We get a week out, without a doubt,
gunna sing it out loud.
i love my city
this is my town,
we get a week out, without a doubt,
gunna sing it out loud:41904.jpg |
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| Quote: allmatt "Edited for accuracy
Here is the plan showing the area proposed to be designated employment which would exclude most of the development.
Which only further backs up my point that the major point of contention (B8 warehousing) is situated on land that has already been ratified per the LFD.
So you tick that off; what's your next point of contention? This site of the stadium? A community stadium and sporting facilities are perfectly viable uses for green belt land.
You wanna keep feeding me ammo?
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| Quote: mallcmjlm100 "I hope wakey do get there ground as crusaders should be out but if you live in a quiet road then all of a sudden 20 a so hgv come rumbling down wud u like it cos i wudnt good luck the wildcats'"
Will they be rumbling down that road, kinda think they won't be running past those houses, unless someones changed the plans.
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| Quote: Sandal Wild Cat "Yes A Small part ofthe site for the industrial units have been sanctioned for employment (as I said). Which is currently Green Belt.
The stadium is to be built on green belt land- which is actually a former colliery. So not really green belt IMO; even if for arguments sake we say it is (which it isn't) a community stadium and sporting facilities are perfect uses for green belt, as the preserve it's use to the public.
So from my prospective the point of contention (Somethe industrial units) are situated on land which has been ratified in draft by the central government. Is this not the point of contention with NIMBY's and the LCC?'"
Edited again
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| Quote: Sandal Wild Cat "The stadium is to be built on green belt land- which is actually a former colliery. So not really green belt IMO; even if for arguments sake we say it is (which it isn't) a community stadium and sporting facilities are perfect uses for green belt, as the preserve it's use to the public.'"
Are you sure you know the exact definition of green belt? - from reading the above it's clear you don't!
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| thank goodness the decision will be made based on the facts...
not conjecture, miss-representation and or bias by either side.
but I shall repeat... a development will cover this site withing the next 5-10 years... the best residents can hope for is that this is done tastefully with recreational (as well as commercial) benefit to the community!
Canute demonstrated that trying to stop the tide is beyond even a King!
... or are the two feuding husbands actually prepared to cut the disputed wife in half so that they get half each?
I'll stop now before I get metaphor blindness!!
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| Quote: Sandal Wild Cat "So you tick that off; what's your next point of contention? This site of the stadium?
You wanna keep feeding me ammo?'"
Gladly
A community stadium and sporting facilities are perfectly viable uses for green belt land
In your opinion only -
"The majority of the proposals in this application therefore constitute inappropriate
development within the Green Belt with the MUGA being the one element of the scheme
which is appropriate given that it is classed as an essential facility for outdoor sport and
recreation. The associated development with the MUGA (seating area, changing area
and parking) is however is classed as inappropriate development"
Nothing apart from the 2 outdoor pitches are classed as appropriate
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| Quote: Sandal Wild Cat "Which only further backs up my point that the major point of contention (B8 warehousing) is situated on land that has already been ratified per the LFD.You wanna keep feeding me ammo?'"
Yep - Will do! (although you are shooting yourself down in flames)
and surprise surprise you are wrong again
Look at the LDF proposed plan
The vast majority of B8 development is not covered by the proposed designation.
Plots 4 and 6 (approx 37 Ha) are still in Green Belt, only Plot 7 (15 Ha ) is in the designated employment area.
The remaider in the designated area is PLot 1a, 1b ( Starter units) and Plot 2 & 3 (Hotel and Drive Through Fast Food)
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