It's not that we're being beaten or thumped every week. It's the manner in which we're being beaten. We're rolling over and lack any backbone. I don't mind losing 58-6 every week so long as i see pride, passion and enthusiasm and that we're moving in the right direction.

But there is no commitment, no progression and no pride. There are a few exceptions to this but i expect better regardless of the scoreline. And i expect from them as individuals to have more pride and courage then they're are showing. This is what they love doing, their career, something they have passion for, where is it???

We've all seen poor seasons, but even then the commitment was never in doubt. I expect better

Yes by Friday night all will be well in the camp and only I with a chip on the shoulder. Then Monday after a 50-0 defeat everyone will be up in arms again.

No all will not be well in the camp and wont be now I imagine until next season. Whether that is with a new coach, new players or both. My point was that trying to be clever with the 'he kept us up in 1847/1925' does your argument no favours as it does not represent what the majority of people, if any, are saying.

Nailed on that mate

I disagree, a hell of a lot of people seem to want him here for fear of losing a lot of money paying him off amongst other things I've "laboured." They further that under the secured construction of a ground we will see a revitalised side. Sorry but what-ifs don't secure success.
It's SL playoff competitiveness we need not a one game fix like a semi final or £1m relegation decider.
All the great things Kear (who is a cracking bloke, don't get me wrong) has done will not help us now, let alone a shell of a coach... I'm sick of just making do with Wakefield Trin related peers saying put up with it, Wakefield is a largely populated area and everyone with interest should be screaming from the rooftops that they want a serious assualt on sporting success.

I can see a new coach syndrome buying us 3 wins from 3 and a new Coach in the off season will see far better preperation than JK chopping and changing then getting sacked after 5 straight defeats.

We aspire to regular play off rugby and Kear is the one who has brought us closest to that. Which other teams on our budget are playing regular play off rugby? I'm not saying any of this justifies keeping Kear indefinitely but it does highlight that it's not that easy a job getting Wakey into the play offs. I would rather give Kear the chance to replace Brough and see how we go at the start of next season than replace him with yet another cheap option and end up 11th or 12th.

Thats my view at the present time, but i feel we are out numbered by the Kear out brigade.

Its a BIG gamble either way but i would like to see him assemble a squad and be judged on that rather than this farce of a season with the loss of key players.

If i'm wrong and it goes belly up then i'll support them at any level in any division, these (fans) who are bailing out now (and thats there choice and i respect that ) will do more harm than good.

i give in

Good. close the door on the way out

Who assembled this shower then?

John Kear, Minus the players we lost through one reason or another, i reckon that with those 3 still on board the season would have been slightly better, don't you.

Alot better but until we learn how to defend and slow sides down we're never going to be able to compete with the top 5/6

3 players who Kear signed you mean?

What happens if he signs another unpredictable half back with a history of volatile behaviour and well documented financial problems who sods off half way through the season because somebody wafts a load of £20's under his nose? What happens if he doesn't do his homework and pays big bucks for a NRL prop who turns out to be sap and plays the homesick card and we let him go for frig all to possibly the richest club in the world? What happens if he signs an unhinged controversial hooker who has a history of doing stupid things and disciplinary problems getting suspensions who breaks the laws stupidly and gets banned?

Who's fault will that be?