Talking about defensive patterns though. being a forward myself i watched korki and king in defence alot yesterday...i was impressed with king as he always comes up in the line alot whilst korki trundles up in the line even if they are attacking him...this left him exposed at least twice and simple drop offs meant they broke the line past him... if teams see this they will expose it like wigan did yesterday...

And we have the prospect of Kevin Penny to look forward to.

The future's really bright.

Getting a little worried about the future, I'm sure the light at the end of the tunnel is going out.

It's not going out it just keeps moving further away.

The problem with our back line in y opinion is that it is too small in terms of size and also lacks in power.

None of the centres or wingers currently at the club seem to have the strength to break tackles and i feel that we miss Atkins here as although he couldn't pass he did break through the defence.

I am not having a go at any of the current players for this as i feel that they all have their individual qualities but i just think that we need a bit more size in our backline.

Our backs are too slow in the handling and passing department for my liking and they don't let the ball go out to the wings anywhere near enough. You could have the 2 greatest wingers in the world but if they don't receive any ball you may as well play 2 amateurs on the wings.

In Super League you have to have slick handling otherwise you're going to have problems troubling the scoreboard as we all saw yesterday.

you lot dont have a clue, our attacking options are woeful we never create any space for our backs, we are one dimensional. if we were coached properly with some idea of what we were doing then fair enough blame the backs. JD is our top tackle breaker but he has to come in for scoots or he wont bet the ball same goes with all our backs. At themoment we are a poorly coached team full stop. Eve how highest try scorer in millard have been from kicks. we are useless at creating space for our 3/4's.

Fatha give up messing about and post under your proper user name.

Not about the personnel imo. Nowhere does the coaching frailty become more apparent than when looking at our 3/4's were we are light years behind every other team in SL when it comes down to organisation in both attack and defense.

It has become an embarrassment to watch our vain attempts at scoring from shipping the ball out wide.