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| Would this thread have been started if we had won this game, would Kear be a bad coach then?
We lost to a better side on the night in shocking conditions, it could have gone either way.
We lost with a makeshift side to the 3 x Champions, of course we all know best and have an opinion and we could do a better job 
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| Quote: cats gone mad "who calling for his head tonight? just pointing out in my view he as made some bad choices again tonight,just like he seems to do when he as a full team to pick from he has too many fraves,just like when he left rooney out of semi two years ago'"
You only seem to "point out" when we lose, why is that. |
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'That is why no amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party.... So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin':23909.gif |
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| Quote: BIGAL1 "Would this thread have been started if we had won this game, would Kear be a bad coach then?
We lost to a better side on the night in shocking conditions, it could have gone either way.
We lost with a makeshift side to the 3 x Champions, of course we all know best and have an opinion and we could do a better job ![]()
Makeshift?
For what it's worth we were questioning the bench beofre kick off it's not made with the benefit of hindsight. If we had won I would still be saying it makes no sense to have a bench with blaymire and jeffries on it
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I cant believe that we put in a very good showing at Leeds, and still you have to be negative. Be positive, not many teams get within 6 points of them at home. Give them some credit.
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| Quote: cats gone mad "1,gleesen shouldnt be on the pitch in the first place and 2, we got so close while only having two forwards on bench i think we may have sneaked it had we had more freshness in the pack,3 had davy been involved latu would not have had to come back on cos yes he was
Lets start with the common ground - we got very close.
Now JK is only culpable for failing to get close enough if his selection and tactics were incapable of delivering a victory. I'm of the opinion that his selection and tactices were capable of delivering victory. That they did not was due to individual errors with regard to ball retention, many of which could not be reasonably accouted for by the conditions.
I don't have a beef with your view on his team selection. We may have been stronger with the bench you advocate. But what still remains is the side he put out and the tacticis he had them employ were good enough tonight to beat the 3 times champs. We simply bombed on ball retention - not JKs department (unless he had instructed them to drop the ball of course!)
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| Quote: cats gone mad "proved what a poor coach he is again tonight picking gleesen again when its clear he aint good enough and his mr faverate jd cocked up for last 8 points we conceded droping ball and missed tackle aqnd also a stupid bench'"
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| Quote: TURFEDOUT "Snowie,firstly,if the club was to collapse if Kear went,that doesnt really say much about us.It also smacks of one man being bigger than the club.Im brassed off listening at games to supporters saying Kear saved us from relegation -- how many years will it be until this debt to Kear is considered to have been repaid???
Im not knocking the effort,im knocking the team selection by Kear.It appears he will do anything to accomodate certain players,eg JD,however poor they have been.His overall team selection tonight had us at a disadvantage straight from the kick off -- irrespective of the weather. and this is now 4/5 times he has selected a bench that even Stevie Wonder could see is plain dumb coaching.'"
I was pleased to see morrison back and when he left with the binning that is when the game turned,
at 18 all it could of gone any way so how do you call for the coach head 
I just can't get around the fact that our fans expect more for the quality of players that we bring to the club, there is one thing they do reserve far greater support than we give them |
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| Quote: snowie "I was pleased to see morrison back and when he left with the binning that is when the game turned,
at 18 all it could of gone any way so how do you call for the coach head ![]()
completely disagree, the game turned (again) at that point when Demetriou dropped the ball for the 4/5th time right before that in his own 20/30
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| Quote: Schunter "completely disagree, the game turned (again) at that point when Demetriou dropped the ball for the 4/5th time right before that in his own 20/30'"
you can also blame BJ not holding on to the ball when smith punched it out into touch, the weather did play a major part in this fascicle game didn't it |
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Disagree with the criticism of the bench, as he was always going to use the subs to interchange with forwards. Forward goes off and JD goes into pack. Murphy moves into centre and Blaymire comes on. Latu goes off, Obst goes in at 9, and BJ comes on to go at 7. Now I haven't got my calculator out, but I bet no forward played more because of the selection than they expected.
Seems a simple strategy that might have kept Leeds guessing a bit, and with that selection we slugged it out, toe to toe, against the champions who played well.
Yep, JD spilled a couple of times at crucial moments, but so did others.
In respect of Gleeson and that pass, it could be equally said that Blanch should have been ready for it. If the pass before then had gone to a man, Gleeson wouldn't have got the ball in that position. Leeds try passes like that all the time, and when they come off, they are geniuses. Gleeson tries it and it doesn't. One of those things.
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| Quote: cats gone mad "who calling for his head tonight? just pointing out in my view he as made some bad choices again tonight,just like he seems to do when he as a full team to pick from he has too many fraves,just like when he left rooney out of semi two years ago'"
So what you are saying is, he is a poor coach, (your words) but you are not calling for his head.
That can only mean, in your opinion, you want a coach, who in your opinion is poor, to coach WTRLFC.
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Not really knocking JK in hindsight but Latu should have been replaced after 7 mistakes in a short spell and perhaps a Leaeno/Gledhill for Hendo/Johnson who didn't make much impact. You can't account for unforecast rain with selections!
I still think JD should be spelled. Tonight's performance gave me a lot of heart though.
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| Quote: WF4 "Not really knocking JK in hindsight but Latu should have been replaced after 7 mistakes in a short spell and perhaps a Leaeno/Gledhill for Hendo/Johnson who didn't make much impact. You can't account for unforecast rain with selections!
I still think JD should be spelled. Tonight's performance gave me a lot of heart though.'" enough to lose a tooth  |
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| Quote: snowie "enough to lose a tooth ![]()
The wakey turnout was the biggest gripe. I was expecting at least 1,000. I'd say 500 max. Not happy with some of the female students either outside the ground...
I nearly had a fight with a Wakey fan in the toilets at half time, what a drunken idiot and I have seen him at BV many a time as equally drunk. I've never seen 20 people leave a room as fast as tonight, it was like Robocop on acid.
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| Quote: BIGAL1 "Would this thread have been started if we had won this game, would Kear be a bad coach then?
We lost to a better side on the night in shocking conditions, it could have gone either way.
We lost with a makeshift side to the 3 x Champions, of course we all know best and have an opinion and we could do a better job ![]()
al the poster who started this thread would of been absent , i think its about time we gave this calibre of poster the attention it requires and just ignore it , it may just go away.
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