Can't beat a bit of over optimism

I have no idea, which makes me the most honest poster on these forums.

You and some others on here think you know, you always think you know but more often than not you don't.

RL is a rumour machine from start to finish and you can't trust anyone IMHO, and anyone who posts stuff like done deal is a fool IMHO, which includes Wakey fans. Those who I know who do know the truth are never silly enough to post it, why would anyone with the clubs best interests at heart do such a thing?

I wouldn't care if Atkins took me for a cosy dinner for two at the Toby inn and told me he was off I still wouldn't believe it until it was officially announced. Sadly may take pub gossip and friend of a friend stuff as gospel and it simply isn't, it's still just gossip no matter how high up and trusted the alleged source is.

It could be 100% correct but anyone who 100% believes what gets posted on here is an even bigger fool than those who post the rumour.

xxHoneyxx says he's staying - so who do I believe? I hope it's correct for your sake, you need one as it's been a while. Me personally I don't understand the joy so many of you seem to find in telling the bad news which again IMHO it is.

Where has I said he's going??

What have I been wrong about then vastman, as your vitrol lately has been towards me.

You didn't.

You were wrong about Obst, however it's not just you there are plenty of others you just tend to do it more often and with more authority but I may be wrong.

Do you think he is off?

correct.

Also understand Grix has signed for Huddersfield, Wilkes has signed for another club, unsure who. Brough apparently in talks with us over a new deal - sticking point over money, as broughy states he could get better elswhere...which worries me, because over the years, whoever wanted more money, weve not given in and theyve ended up leaving...notably nat wood !!!!

Was already thinking about this today after i heard about Millard, so IF Atkins goes & we sign (as i think we will) Stefan Ratchford, i would go for a starting 13 of;

1. Matt Blaymire
2. Damien Blanch
3. Daryl Millard
4. Sean Gleeson
5. Luke George
6. Stefan Ratchford
7. Danny Brough
8. Shane Tronc
9. Terry Newton
10. Michael Korkidas
11. Dale Ferguson
12. Glenn Morrison
13. Jason Demetriou

14. Sam Obst
15. Tevita Leo Latu
16. Richard Moore
17. James Stosic

Thought the test run of the Gleeson-George wing went well on Sunday, & like everyone else I'm already watering at the thought of what a Millard-Blanch could be like if they gel & are fit & well.

Roll on 2010.

being pedantic great team except make up of the bench. obst and latu on bench doesn't go for me

I'd still have Grix over Ratchford for now. He isn't quite ready yet

have thought that too, but lets face it Sam could at a push play aywhere 1-7 because of his speed, skill & mean takle for such a little lad.
Where as Leo can cover all forward positions at a push, apart from prop but you carry 2 on the bench anyhow. Meaning even if a prop or (even 2) goes off you can put Leo on and move a second rower up-front.

Ha. Method to my so-called madness.

No but think how much more JK could get out of him rather than big Steve, lets face it i think he has a far better working relationship with the burger van lady than he does with his own squad. Karl Harrison may not have been a master coach but at least he gave his team pride.

Ask yourself, if you were Ratchford which club would you rather be a part of?

Think you mean big Shaun

Thats the one..

The one who looks like the bad guy from danger mouse.

not as simple as that though is it. Otherwise half of our team would be at HullKR; Hudds; Leeds; Sts. Shaun could be telling him he won't be playing first team with us for a while and if he stays someone with the big bucks will pick him up instead.

I'm not saying I wouldn't have him but he's not the guy to lead the line.

yeah but with brough and newton would he reallybe doing that though anyway? i'll be honest i know all about him anyway but as long as our 7 and 9 are as experienced as they may be it might not matter