How many times do they have to let themselves down before it becomes accepted that they just aren't that good. Trinity are bottom five material. Anything above that will be a bonus.

I know what you're saying, its just an opinion that I don't share. In the 2 Smiths, Collis and Lautiti we have some X factor that can lift us higher and I still think our pack can mix it with most.

Cut down on errors and we can compete!

Does anyone know what time big Ali came on? I didn't spot him until about 60-65 mins in, which given we lost Poore in an incident fairly early on I found perplexing.

61 minutes

I'm starting to be baffled by Agars squads and substitutions (I await the cod head "i told you" replies with gritted teeth.)
Flogging dead horses three games in a week, keeping fresh legs off the pitch either by not selecting players or not playing subs.
My "Agar Out" banner is starting to itch!!

Thanks, it makes little sense to me to have the most sizeable forward sat bench warming for so long when the other forwards are working so had because of Poore's departure. That is unless he's carrying a significant knock and we're down to the last 16-17 standing.

Farrell didn't throw a punch FYI.

Its funny as pretty much everyone I have heard it from aside from you said he did!

Everyone being Wakefield fans and Yorkshire radio commentators you mean?

Did the 12 000 ish Wigan fans help the referee with some of the 50:50 decisions?
Did the Wakefield fans try to help the referee from behind the sticks with the same 50:50 decisions?



Next Sunday, will Warrington be invited to stand down the west terrace so the help the referee?
Will Wakefield try to help the referee from behind the sticks?????

Every other club I know make home advantage count.

Heard it off some wigan fans too (Twitter).

I agree we dont respect the ball at all. I am all for expansive rugby but we do not respect posession and our defence is not good enough not to respect possession. Its worrying Agar never mentions this after the games. As for using the squad better i am so peeved off with the MAriano thing. Agar has his favourites without doubt.

Think they're wrong then. The video might prove either of us wrong but I saw Farrell put his arm across him and then Poore floored him. Faz is too smart to throw punches, especially at someone like Poore.

At the end of the day, it happens. I'd rather our players not do it but they do. It's the heat of the moment.

It killed what was already going to be a very difficult game for Wakefield.It may have been different if Poore just got Sin Binned for 10 mins or maybe played with controlled aggression instead?

Wonder if Farrell was aware of the previous Poore and Ryan Bailey tussle and played for it?

For team spirit but don't think we're anywhere near as good as end of last season and discipline and defence are worrying areas.