You're right - I omitted that and it was an error; he must have been so overjoyed to finally get some ball, that he found an extra yard of pace.

He really is a joy to watch - when he puts the hammer down, there can't be many players in SL who could live with his acceleration and power.

Pity he has to be put away with 35 metre cross field kicks than 1 metre passes.

Indeed - hence my original comment that he is woefully underused; with a winger of that quality, we should be doing everything we can to get it to that side and give him a chance to run at/around/over his opposite numbers - all of which he's proved he can do to devastating effect.

It breaks my heart to see him carting it out of our 20 like a prop forward.

Exactly ......but what has changed so much this season? Last year he had a field day with the ball but we seem to constantly want to trundle down the middle now. He certainly received more ball when Max was playing , the runs out wide and the passes to Tom were a joy to watch.

John Kear?

Think you may be right......bad news for us if he is influencing things to this extent...

He's spot on mate Kear's trade mark 5 drives and a kick, what surprises me is none of the coaches on here seem to want to accept it.

It's a very simplistic way of describing it - but JK does have a history of preferring a very safe, formulaic style of rugby, that is low on flair on creativity, and high on percentages and completion. I guess the problem with that, if that is indeed where the influence is coming from, is that we now have players of sufficient skill and quality to execute a more sophisticated brand of RL - what we needed was that, with better organised, more committed defence.

Good weather forecast for Thursday - so hopefully the coaching staff will let the shackles off attack wise.

the kicking game s terrible !!! how many 7 tackle sets did they give- not good enough

Miller and Williams have been terrible even in our wins

I'm not especially worried at this stage. We've controlled large parts of games this season and 2 wins 3 defeats is about right.

I'm more disappointed than worried, thought we were making some strides but Leeds comprehensively outplayed us, without having to be good. This was more to do with poor execution than coaching factors imo - can't blame chester that an NRL standard half back kept kicking it out the back and our forwards getting tummies tickled.

Lets see how we do against Leigh - if it continues and we get battered up the middle - fair enough, but too early to be reaching for the nooses & pitchforks just yet.

No disrespect to either you or Williams, but if he was an NRL standard halfback, wouldn't he be playing there?! The only reason he's here is because he's a reserve grader in Australia, which is probably the same standard as SL! Maybe he's performing at his level, although let's hope he does offer more as he continues to settle in......

Well he played a decent number of games for Canberra at Scrum Half last year and 2015, they finished 2nd and got to playoff semis.

Also named as Scrum half of the year in the NSW cup - which won't be far behind SL.

He was also offered a new contract by Canberra - make of that what you will.

Fair enough, maybe I am being a bit unfair on him. He's played around 90 games then in 6 or 7 seasons? Not sure if that is classed as a 'regular' especially when a lot of those were played when Matt Orford was injured. I hope he does come good, I certainly don't think he's been terrible as some have said, and he did get MOM at Saints, i'm just not sure he's gonna be the superstar some had him labelled as before a ball was kicked.

Perhaps JK's five drives and kick simplicity is having an effect on two halfbacks that might want to be more expansive? Put it this way - I couldn't see Gale and Chase being suited to that.