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| Quote Miro="Miro"Maths...well, maths is only as good as the figures imputed in order to get the correct result. I think I made it quite plain that those imputed figures, especially from our new lord and masters, are usually a load of garbage.
Macro that.'"
You caught up at last the figures might be garbage but the figures posted come from sources purported to be reliable in different countries now if you can get out of the UK bububble you can see the picture emerging based on factual evidence not predictions.
Accepting the death rate may be higher than expected at the moment because countries were caught out and the virus hit the vulnerable. There are still a lot of vulnerable people in the world and if UN checked this virus has a long way to go.
You may have missed an article yesterday about the rising UK hospital admissions the highest group is females between 30 and 40 quite a surprise to say that it initially hit minority and vulnerable groups and statistically more men.
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| Quote REDWHITEANDBLUE="REDWHITEANDBLUE"You caught up at last the figures might be garbage but the figures posted come from sources purported to be reliable in different countries now if you can get out of the UK bububble you can see the picture emerging based on factual evidence not predictions.
Accepting the death rate may be higher than expected at the moment because countries were caught out and the virus hit the vulnerable. There are still a lot of vulnerable people in the world and if UN checked this virus has a long way to go.
You may have missed an article yesterday about the rising UK hospital admissions the highest group is females between 30 and 40 quite a surprise to say that it initially hit minority and vulnerable groups and statistically more men.
Over to you if you want to continue to quest!'"
Define "factual evidence" It's easy to say but what does that translate as? Give me an example. Who's facts? A lot of people in hospital with the flu diagnosed as ........?
More testing than ever before ? More cases then.
Tell you what, a lot of folk seem to need glasses these days, lets mandate eye testing, lets test everyone, millions of us. You know what? There will be an epidemic of bad eyesight like never seen before. The NHS will be overwhelmed by folk needing operations, glasses, contact lenses etc. We won't be able to cope. The BBC and the rest will wrack their brains to find out the cause of this eyesight epidemic. They will have hours and hours of coverage. Large coloufull graphics showing every eye disease known to man. The studio lights will be turned so dim the presenters will not be able to see each other. Tickertape reporting (bottom of screen) giving the latest eye test fail figures, car crashes reported daily caused by dodgy eyesight. Floodlights at sporting events will be banned, all kick offs at 11 in the morning. Then the whole world will catch on and bingo!! A pLandemic. Or should I say the whole world governments will read the script.
But wait, what's this? It was all planned months in advance? Right down to the order to stay indoors with the curtains closed. Lets call it Event 301. (Rather like the real Event 201)
Don't worry folks, put those eyeshades and dark glasses away. All I wrote there was pure fiction and the result of an overactive mind....or was it 
But before you all ridicule me, how about I predicted all the madness that's happened over the past few months in say October 2019. Would you have called me a conspiracy theorist ? I bet my life you would. | | | |
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| Quote REDWHITEANDBLUE="REDWHITEANDBLUE"
You may have missed an article yesterday about the rising UK hospital admissions the highest group is females between 30 and 40 quite a surprise to say that it initially hit minority and vulnerable groups and statistically more men.
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I've found the current number of patients in English hospitals with COVID is currently 1,381 compared to our recorded lowest figure of 451 on 02-September following the peak in April (18,970).
I'm struggling to find any publications to support this claim regarding the age/gender of hospitalisation amongst women. I don't dispute community testing results which shows women of this age range are currently the highest demographic to test positive but does that necessarily mean they are occupying a significant number of beds in hospital with COVID? At the moment without published data I would not believe this claim. Not to say its not true I would want to see data to support it.
Also worth considering, how many of these women at this age range get admitted to hospital for treatment of another illness and were tested for COVID upon admission but are actually asymptomatic and show no COVID symptoms?
Regardless of silly national mask mandates (look at daily Spain cases) or 10pm curfew (look at Belgium daily cases) its quite obvious that as we move into the Winter months these "community cases", hospital admissions and deaths will increase exponentially as they do every winter with COVID or without COVID. | | |
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| Quote Miro="Miro"Define "factual evidence" It's easy to say but what does that translate as? Give me an example. Who's facts? A lot of people in hospital with the flu diagnosed as ........?
More testing than ever before ? More cases then.
Tell you what, a lot of folk seem to need glasses these days, lets mandate eye testing, lets test everyone, millions of us. You know what? There will be an epidemic of bad eyesight like never seen before. The NHS will be overwhelmed by folk needing operations, glasses, contact lenses etc. We won't be able to cope. The BBC and the rest will wrack their brains to find out the cause of this eyesight epidemic. They will have hours and hours of coverage. Large coloufull graphics showing every eye disease known to man. The studio lights will be turned so dim the presenters will not be able to see each other. Tickertape reporting (bottom of screen) giving the latest eye test fail figures, car crashes reported daily caused by dodgy eyesight. Floodlights at sporting events will be banned, all kick offs at 11 in the morning. Then the whole world will catch on and bingo!! A pLandemic. Or should I say the whole world governments will read the script.
But wait, what's this? It was all planned months in advance? Right down to the order to stay indoors with the curtains closed. Lets call it Event 301. (Rather like the real Event 201)
Don't worry folks, put those eyeshades and dark glasses away. All I wrote there was pure fiction and the result of an overactive mind....or was it
But before you all ridicule me, how about I predicted all the madness that's happened over the past few months in say October 2019. Would you have called me a conspiracy theorist ? I bet my life you would.'"
Factual evidence number of confirmed positive tests v number of deaths related to positive tests as collated Internationally.
You carry on with your crusade mate I just don't agree with you but if you would like a tour of a Covid Ward let me know I must just be able to assist. In the meantime get yourself to Specsavers for an up to date eye test before everyone swamps the opticians | | |
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| Quote REDWHITEANDBLUE="REDWHITEANDBLUE"Factual evidence number of confirmed positive tests v number of deaths related to positive tests as collated Internationally.
You carry on with your crusade mate I just don't agree with you but if you would like a tour of a Covid Ward let me know I must just be able to assist. In the meantime get yourself to Specsavers for an up to date eye test before everyone swamps the opticians'"
Aww, you coulda put a smiley at the end  | | | |
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| Quote Miro="Miro"Aww, you coulda put a smiley at the end
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Mate I would have but it doesn't do it from my phone on this app for some reason this one if it works is by the old method! | | |
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Quote REDWHITEANDBLUE="REDWHITEANDBLUE"Factual evidence number of confirmed positive tests v number of deaths related to positive tests as collated Internationally.
You carry on with your crusade mate I just don't agree with you but if you would like a tour of a Covid Ward let me know I must just be able to assist. In the meantime get yourself to Specsavers for an up to date eye test before everyone swamps the opticians'"
Yes, I'll carry on with my “crusade” but I tell you this. At least our is a just crusade digging as much evidence as possible in an effort to get back to normal once this scam has been to exposed. You on the other hand appear hell bent in digging up as many bogus (though I believe you believe them to be real) statistics as possible in order to drag this dystopian nighmare on for as long as it takes to completely ruin thousands of lives. Very noble of you.
But I'll say this, we may be wrong but if we are it won't matter a fig. On the other hand, if you are wrong then the damage caused to society by these unjustafiable rules will be incalculable, hope you can live with that as you strive to justify lockdowns, anti social distancing, job losses, family businesses gone for ever, mask wearing and my 8 year old grandaughter sent home yesterday to isolate for 2 weeks because a classmate has a temperature.
Meanwhile....why your statistics are not worth the paper they are written on. This the US,There is no reson to believe all those countries, out there are at all sqeaky clean either, why would they be. That included our country too.
Here is the article, very interesting, as is the intevfiew on Fox News with Minnesota physsician and republican state senator Dr Scott Jenson.
“Official” Statistics on COVID-19 Deaths Vary Widely Depending on Who You Trust
The corporate media presents daily updates on COVID-19 deaths as if it they were universally accepted as accurate.
But did you know that as of this past weekend, the media’s statistics for COVID-19 deaths were more than 29,000 HIGHER than what the U.S. Centre for Disease Control (The s for Disease Control and Prevention is a national public health institute in the United States. It is a United States federal agency, under the Department of Health and Human Services )was reporting?
The media is NOT using CDC statistics to report COVID-19 deaths. They are mainly using statistics from a website called Worldometer.
The number of deaths being reported at the Worldometer website have consistently run about 60% higher than what the CDC website has been publishing.
And as we have previously reported, many doctors and others have come forward to explain that the CDC guidelines for reporting CDC deaths is very liberal, because almost anyone coming into the hospitals right now is automatically counted as COVID-19 patients, and even if they had pre-existing conditions such as heart disease or cancer, they are being reported as COVID-19 deaths.
Or this.
COVID19 Death Certificates are Being Manipulated According to Montana Physician with 30 Years Experi Dr Scottence
Dr. Scott Jensen is a Minnesota physician and republican state senator. He recently appeared on Fox News during the The Ingraham Angle with host Laura Ingraham to discuss the CDC’s new guidelines issued this week regarding how to fill out death certificates in the light of the current COVID-19 outbreak.
As we have previously reported here at Health Impact News, many doctors are now coming forward to report inconsistencies with what the public is being told regarding COVID-19 treatments, and one of those issues is that “cause of death” is now being encouraged to be listed on death certificates, even if there is no positive test revealing COVID-19, or if there are other underlying conditions.
Dr. Jensen pointed out another possible motive for this new CDC guideline:
“Right now Medicare is determining that if you have a COVID-19 admission to the hospital you get $13,000. If that COVID-19 patient goes on a ventilator you get $39,000, three times as much. Nobody can tell me after 35 years in the world of medicine that sometimes those kinds of things impact on what we do.”
Deaths attributed to COVID-19 are covered by the U.S. Government because of the massive stimulus package passed by Congress, but other causes of death are not.
Listen to the entire interview, which up until now has rarely been reported in the corporate media. Doctors like Dr. Jensen are putting their careers on the line for daring to criticize government health authorities like Dr. Fauci
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Quote REDWHITEANDBLUE="REDWHITEANDBLUE"Factual evidence number of confirmed positive tests v number of deaths related to positive tests as collated Internationally.
You carry on with your crusade mate I just don't agree with you but if you would like a tour of a Covid Ward let me know I must just be able to assist. In the meantime get yourself to Specsavers for an up to date eye test before everyone swamps the opticians'"
Yes, I'll carry on with my “crusade” but I tell you this. At least our is a just crusade digging as much evidence as possible in an effort to get back to normal once this scam has been to exposed. You on the other hand appear hell bent in digging up as many bogus (though I believe you believe them to be real) statistics as possible in order to drag this dystopian nighmare on for as long as it takes to completely ruin thousands of lives. Very noble of you.
But I'll say this, we may be wrong but if we are it won't matter a fig. On the other hand, if you are wrong then the damage caused to society by these unjustafiable rules will be incalculable, hope you can live with that as you strive to justify lockdowns, anti social distancing, job losses, family businesses gone for ever, mask wearing and my 8 year old grandaughter sent home yesterday to isolate for 2 weeks because a classmate has a temperature.
Meanwhile....why your statistics are not worth the paper they are written on. This the US,There is no reson to believe all those countries, out there are at all sqeaky clean either, why would they be. That included our country too.
Here is the article, very interesting, as is the intevfiew on Fox News with Minnesota physsician and republican state senator Dr Scott Jenson.
“Official” Statistics on COVID-19 Deaths Vary Widely Depending on Who You Trust
The corporate media presents daily updates on COVID-19 deaths as if it they were universally accepted as accurate.
But did you know that as of this past weekend, the media’s statistics for COVID-19 deaths were more than 29,000 HIGHER than what the U.S. Centre for Disease Control (The s for Disease Control and Prevention is a national public health institute in the United States. It is a United States federal agency, under the Department of Health and Human Services )was reporting?
The media is NOT using CDC statistics to report COVID-19 deaths. They are mainly using statistics from a website called Worldometer.
The number of deaths being reported at the Worldometer website have consistently run about 60% higher than what the CDC website has been publishing.
And as we have previously reported, many doctors and others have come forward to explain that the CDC guidelines for reporting CDC deaths is very liberal, because almost anyone coming into the hospitals right now is automatically counted as COVID-19 patients, and even if they had pre-existing conditions such as heart disease or cancer, they are being reported as COVID-19 deaths.
Or this.
COVID19 Death Certificates are Being Manipulated According to Montana Physician with 30 Years Experi Dr Scottence
Dr. Scott Jensen is a Minnesota physician and republican state senator. He recently appeared on Fox News during the The Ingraham Angle with host Laura Ingraham to discuss the CDC’s new guidelines issued this week regarding how to fill out death certificates in the light of the current COVID-19 outbreak.
As we have previously reported here at Health Impact News, many doctors are now coming forward to report inconsistencies with what the public is being told regarding COVID-19 treatments, and one of those issues is that “cause of death” is now being encouraged to be listed on death certificates, even if there is no positive test revealing COVID-19, or if there are other underlying conditions.
Dr. Jensen pointed out another possible motive for this new CDC guideline:
“Right now Medicare is determining that if you have a COVID-19 admission to the hospital you get $13,000. If that COVID-19 patient goes on a ventilator you get $39,000, three times as much. Nobody can tell me after 35 years in the world of medicine that sometimes those kinds of things impact on what we do.”
Deaths attributed to COVID-19 are covered by the U.S. Government because of the massive stimulus package passed by Congress, but other causes of death are not.
Listen to the entire interview, which up until now has rarely been reported in the corporate media. Doctors like Dr. Jensen are putting their careers on the line for daring to criticize government health authorities like Dr. Fauci
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And before you strive to discredit the above RW&B, Pop Tart n all, ask yourself this...why? Why do they go to such lengths to manipulate these figures, why is so much money, running into millions, involved.
Why so much censorship of doctors, nurses and scientists. Surely the “terrible virus” can speak for itself simply by it's affect on people as they fall ill, But to go to these lengths, Why?
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You are David Icke and I claim my £5.00
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| Wow you chose to make your campaign on a rugby league forum, well that a great place to get it noticed 
You mention this on your post above
'But I'll say this, we may be wrong but if we are it won't matter a fig' this what's angers me you say you care but then come out with this sod you Jack I'm ok attitude, you must be starting to doubt your evidence with that comment
As for profit making yes there's always someone looking to make that quick buck in america would suit you to the ground over there.
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Anyway back to rugby how come Pearson can take his kids to watch the match, is this not a breaking of the rules ?
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