are things that bad financially that if turned their back for a home game of too they end up bankrupt wow you don't half go over the top, anyway it unusual for you to post so soon after a defeat and up to week or so when it's a heavy one as you normally go off sulking

Never mind turn up with the rest of the sheep baar, baar, baar

Change is needed now on and off the field asap

He also missed my point. Most people including myself have already bought a ticket, but I am not wasting my only day off. So they actually get my money anyway.

You will be upsetting him, PT and Chissitt because they don’t like to face reality, if you support Wakefield you do so regardless, without question.

True, it was incredibly stupid. The club is a different thing to the players.

I'd happily get rid of most of our squad and perhaps even the coaching staff.

Then I'd replace them with better.

Oh wait, I can't do that because I have no money because some fans think it's a great idea to get rid of the team by killing the club. Your logic is totally twisted.

Being a fane of most clubs is hard work, painful at times, especially ones like Trinity. However there is only one choice if you want the club to survive and that's to keep supporting it no matter what. It's what we are, supporters.

Couple of years back we hammered Hull by a similar margin, and Wigan. They have both recovered.

Firstly, you have no idea what I think or how I feel. So stop being an idiot.
Second, it is significant in my opinion that when we were winning, you couldn't bring yourself to congratulate the team and then just stopped posting. Now they've lost you are gleefully posting from your holiday. Says it all.

Personally, I support Wakefield Trinity. They were awful today. But it doesn't mean every player is bad or that the club is going to implode.
Encouraging people not to support the club is the most destructive thing a supposed supporter can do. I've never even seen a Cas fan do that to us.

I'll be there next week because the team needs support and the club needs money. I don't really care whether you, Snowie and Burton like that or not. It's my choice.

They probably are but that's not the point.

I'm over the top! Thats so rich and ironic from the world class moaner, I've just wet myself with laughter.

Its infantile and counter productive, but its free country so go ahead if it makes you feel good.

For me the club is the only thing that matters, those in charge and those playing, or not, in this case are irrelevant. If that makes me a sheep (how pathetic a jibe is that) then I'm fine because at least I'm not you.

Well i dont know about facing reality but the facts are pretty hard to avoid. The rump of our squad will still be with us next season , they will also be a year older and no better than they are now. They all have to be paid and therefore many will still be getting regular games because we cant afford to buy in a dozen or so decent players. Best you can all look forward to is another season watching some of this dross struggle to compete.

When I arrived at the ground and the Trinity players pre match warming up, Max Jowitt was amongst the group and I just assumed he was in the 17 to play. Please God, don’t let Gaskell or Lineham play for Trinity ever again. MJ on one leg and wearing a blindfold would outplay them both. I’ve had some lows in recent years watching Trinity, but today I have to say even the referee performed better than Trinity.

How predictable, you're a big man now after one defeat and now you have Snowie as your temporary new best buddy, you really are tragic.

Yes pimp, I'm delighted by that scoreline and in no way am I upset or angry, because only gobsh*tes like you feel those emotions. Happy?

Still missing the point and cut out the insults, I have kids who are more grown up than you.

The club and the players are a one. I will help to save you typing more insults.

The players don't perform, the clubs loses. People stop attending and buying merch.

The club don't provide, IE. Suitable training facilities, personal support etc the players don't perform.

Yes, the club is doing everything right off of the field and need everyone's support going forward but again you missed the point.

MOST - read that word. Most people, myself included have bought tickets for the Wigan game already, they are cheap, I sit seated because I take my daughter. By refusing to go and losing a tenner, if done on mass, sends a message to the club.

I do hope that helps.

wheres foggy gone

The club provides the finances to sign and retain players and coaches. If they fail in this then the team deteriorates because the more the better players leave there is no production line of juniors coming through fast enough and with enough ability to replace them which is of course the cheapest option. The club’s finances then decide what can be spent so yes it is their fault.
I know I am going against all you have been told but don’t worry your next instructions will follow shortly. I bet you noticed that I didn’t have to resort to insults, it’s a sign you should wait and not rush your replies after a defeat. I doubt Snowie would consider me his best mate but it is possible to agree on something I have with you on rare occasions and I definitely don’t count you as a friend.

Lost in the mists of denial and probably searching for Vastman to help him find his way out.

What insult, it's a statement of fact, it was an idiotic comment in my opinion, I didn't call you an idiot, there is a huge difference, it's called debate.

No, I didn't miss any point. You may not be robbing the club of money, I'm a ST ticket holder so I won't. However what you are suggesting is negative and will encourage people who have not yet paid to stop attending. How can that possibly help?

The club cannot get rid of half a team this season even if they wanted to. I'm absolutely certain that the BOD know people are unhappy with that that result. I mean seriously do you honestly think they don't care and aren't as gutted as us. These people have sunk far more into this club than you or me. You don't have a monopoly on the pain, they are also fans, Jesus H it's not like there is a profit in it for them. There isn't even any prestige.

Like it or not we start again next week. It's gutting but nobody has a magic wand. The team, not the club, is in the doldrums, let's not push the club there aswell.

Personally if I were you I'd leave your daughter at home, she doesn't deserve to watch what we currently are. But me and you are adults and we will have to take it on the chin and hope better days are around the corner.

One final thought. I've criticised WP on another thread but then I had a thought. What if he too knows we have a team of chancers and lightweights, maybe he's let it be known that he wants a clear out and he's trying to work out who should stay or go. I suspect he knows after today that Minns and Gaskell are two of them.
Could be way off but as I'm not privy to such matters I can only speculate.

Sometimes you have to go backwards to go forward.