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| Quote: Fordy "OK, stats from Superleague site comparing Atkins with Shenton (game averages)....
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Lies, damn lies and statistics. Nothing against Atkins, but I think it's fair to say, at this point in their careers, Shenton has more of a rugby brain than Atkins has.
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| id try at atkins in the 2nd row next year.
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| Quote: jesper parnevik "id try at atkins in the 2nd row next year.'" I would try him there now, we know he has the power, we have seen him drive into tackles and off loading, all this talk about players been played out off position isn't that far off than second row worth a try just to see what we can do on his wing,
FWIW I don't want him to leave
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| For me Ryan A would make a Semi Tad type of winger; good on the crash 10 metres/yards out, runs through/over the top of players instead of around them, can't pass a ball, both forget their passports. Tad is the perfect role model for Ryan, but forget about the medical expertise.
We might even see the original back here with Bradford getting rid of players 'for business reasons' and us seemingly wanting a winger.
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| Quote: poplar cat "i think atkins would make a great winger, it would certainly eliminate the lack of passing ability or awareness to pass he has, and he would still score as many tries, if not more, especially if he had a centre like gleeson inside of him. hes also fast enough to be a winger too, i think it would be a great move
i think gleeson proved he is a good centre and can set up his winger very well against st helens, so in my opinion, atkins on the wing with a centre like gleeson inside who can set them up,
backs should currenty read for next week.... blaymire (FB) murphy (W) demetriou (C) gleeseon (C) atkins (W) grix (S/O) brough (S/H)'"
Wouldn't argue with that back line at all. Never gonna happen though.
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| What no one has yet mentioned is that on Sunday we started with positions 1 to 5 being British, I don't think we achieved 1 to 7 in the game but for most of the 2nd half I was as confused as the players as to who was playing where.
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| Quote: PHe "What no one has yet mentioned is that on Sunday we started with positions 1 to 5 being British, I don't think we achieved 1 to 7 in the game but for most of the 2nd half I was as confused as the players as to who was playing where.
It ended up with Grix at 6 so it was 1 to 8 then..
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| But didn't JD go into the centres.
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| Quote: Fordy "OK, stats from Superleague site comparing Atkins with Shenton (game averages)
Tries - Atkins 0.588, Shenton 0.619
Assists - Atkins 0.000, Shenton 0.143
Metres - Atkins 85.18, Shenton 81.90
Carries - Atkins 11.18, Shenton 10.29
Tackles - Atkins 14.82, Shenton 19.33
Offloads - Atkins 1.53, Shenton 0.71
Tackle Busts - Atkins 2.82, Shenton 2.29
Clean Breaks - Atkins 0.53, Shenton 0.67
Missed Tackles - Atkins 1.53, Shenton 1.57
Errors - Atkins 1.0, Shenton 1.0
Now considering we all seem to think Atkins is poor and no doubt that Shenton is much better, the stats show them to be fairly similar in most aspects. Atkins better in some departments (Meters, Carries, Offloads, Tackle Busts) Shenton in others (Tries, Assists, Clean Breaks).
How many Cas fans do you think spend all their time on their board bagging Shenton? My guess would be not many!
Typical Wakey fans attitude from a lot on here.
Alright he could do better in certain instances and there are areas to improve but is he as bad as the grief he seems to be getting on here of late??'"
Have tried to keep out of his but i do agree, it seems someone is"weekly" target and this week its Ryan.
Lets just look at other players who we are paying and not getting any value from shall we.
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| Quote: BIGAL1 "Have tried to keep out of his but i do agree, it seems someone is"weekly" target and this week its Ryan.
Lets just look at other players who we are paying and not getting any value from shall we.
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| Quote: snowie "I think the highlighted area is the fact the wing man doesn't get the ball passed by adam, this has to be addressed, as an ex Centre I was always taught to feed the ball to the faster player once you drawn in the defense'"
Ryan
Yes mate i know the problems and thats down to JK to sort and improve that part of Ryans game, just think we are a little quick to pull the trigger at times.
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| Quote: BIGAL1 "Lets just look at other players who we are paying and not getting any value from shall we.
Who would you say isn't giving good value?
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| Quote: t-r-i-n-i-t-y "Who would you say isn't giving good value?'"
Try working it out, pound notes v minutes on the pitch.
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| Quote: BIGAL1 "Try working it out, pound notes v minutes on the pitch.'"
Drew?
Blanch?
Latu?
Petersen?
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| Quote: J.T "Drew?
Blanch?
Latu?
Petersen?'"
Blanch, well that really can't be helped with that sort of injury.
Petos gone anyway.
The other two, well i'm not too sure we are getting value from them, all players pick up injuries but some seem to have more probs than others.
I think times up for both of them.
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