PM me and I'll tell you,vasty; you wouldn't believe it, otherwise my response will probably be "cleaned up" also. (For "cleaned up" read censored.

Because its a thread about Neil Fox celebrating his birthday. Not a thread about how much you like Queen Victoria.

Why not just leave it to people who want to say nice things about Neil?

Pop Tart. Do you ever stop to think before you censor things? I've got the utmost admiration of Neil Fox and have done for 66 years, and if you look at my post you will see that I said he was my childhood hero and still is.
What apparently upset you and that Wollo character was that I stated that it would be nice to replace that statue of Victoria, which if you're honest is an outdated eyesore, with one of the Big Fella and place that of Victoria back in Thornes Park where it used to be (probably before your time).
Now be honest, what is not nice there about Neil? On the contrary, actually. Some of the comments and insults that i see on here seem to pass your censorship screen. You really amaze me at times, PT. Please do not "clean this up", thus satisfying vasty's inquisitive mind. If you should be criticising anyone it should be that Wollo chap for accusing me of "dragging things into the gutter."

Once bumped into him and Ian Brooke at the Holmfield arms having food. I asked for both their autographs for my dad Who I was with. The pair we’re just so debonair, literally top of their games wayyy before I was born, and should be celebrated as such by fans of all ages.

They appear to be joined at the hip, Pat. I've seen them at many eateries around town over the years out with their respective wives. I't's good to see two world class players still firmly bonding after sixty-odd years. Long may they go on.

Unreal really. I concur, it’s really great to see.

They are both really good friends, along with Geoff Oakes.
Get them all talking about the old days and it is pure gold.

Went to the Red Shed on Big Neil's 80th birthday celebration where he gave an excellent question and answers session. As I recall there were many of the 1979 Wembley side there as well, including Juliffe, Diamond, Lampkowski, Sheard and, of course, Brookey. Strange how you maintain in your mind how they looked at the time, then when you see them now it comes as a shock; Big Neil excluded of course.

Who says the Victoria statue is an outdated eyesore.

There you go again assuming your world view is the only one.

We can have both. It might amaze you but more people in Wakefield know who Queen Victoria was than Neil Fox.

It’s not just about ourselves. I’d be hugely annoyed if an important statue of an important monarch representing this countries finest era was removed.

Likewise I’d love to also see a statue of Neil Fox. As I say you can have both, not everything is political.

It defeats the whole object now as its like trying to explain why you asked someone to be quiet when you are trying to listen to something urgent.

But the point was, this was a thread about a much loved player/man and giving people a space to say happy birthday and say nice things about him.
You took it off track wanting to argue about the location of a statue and the merits of a different one.
If you want to talk about that, just open another thread. Leaving this one to stay on track for a change.
I thought it was a small thing to ask but I guess I expected too much.

I didn't take it off track actually, Redcat did, I'm just responding. You're being a bit precious on this one PT.

I'd love a statue of Neil, I'd want to keep QV, hell I'd even settle for a statue of Keir Hardie, though I draw the line at Arthur Scargill!

It's just a bit of harmless debate, I'm sure Neil wouldn't be offended.

Looks like any other statue to me. You're sort of missing the point, it's not about who's what it's about the reasoning. Neil Fox is a hero to all Trinity fans I agree. However, 3,000 for the Hudds game suggests we make up about 1% of the population if that. I'm not convinced you'd get much support for moving a well-known person from history and replacing it with a statue of someone who is now barely known to anyone under the age of fifty or a Trinity fan.

For me, the only place for it is outside BV where it would have some real context. The new stand with the new car park is an ideal opportunity.

If Wakefield were still an RL town I'd be right with you but for now, I don't think it is.

Anyway, it was worth discussing.

If you want to start a fund it page I'm on it

I think it should be BV - to me that's his home (If Wembley don't recognise him we should!)
I'd be prepared to make a donation - but is there an experienced fundraiser willing to take this on?