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| I would keep them, it gives us a different scenario in the game, taking the forwards out of the play although we do not often see scrum plays anymore in our game. There will be a stop clock of 30 seconds to restart the game anyway, I would rather see players forming a scrum than just standing at the side of the play the ball with there hands on there hips.
I cant see the NRL taking scrums out of the play, teams create some fantastic plays off scrums, and it would be a massive shame for them to lose that.
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| No scrums mind as well play touch and pass Aussies have em dosent slow it down at all do like the captain's challenged
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| No scrums mind as well play touch and pass Aussies have em dosent slow it down at all do like the captain's challenged
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| We’ve all grown up watching contested scrums at some time and the fisty cuffs that followed, which I must say I enjoyed in a sadist way ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif) but having watched the present day game with the restart rule introduced and no scrums it has grown on me, maybe if the scrums were contested then maybe but the speed of game today the athletic players of today need to get into attack and defence as soon as possible and don’t want to hang around in a huddle . So I’m happy to carry on as we are.
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| Quote: BarnsleyGull "I thought that would be obvious.....
It was but you still thought it necessary to raise the issue as an option you would like to see in SL.
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| Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "It was but you still thought it necessary to raise the issue as an option you would like to see in SL.'"
What are you on about?
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| If we can't bring back the old "contested" scrum why don't we adopt a "miniature" scrum and enforce proper heeled ptbs (as they should be), and allow the player marking to strike for the ball as they used to be allowed to do. This would do away with the time wasting time of the full scrum yet allow a little bit of skilful competition. If not I reluctantly would have to do away with the scrum altogether.
The only reason the contested scrum became obsolete was because referees were not strict enough with offending players, hence all the penalties
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| What I find strange is that teams must be able to actually contest at the scrum, just no one does it that often, you see the opposition team pushing and winning the ball back on the odd occasion.
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They tried something similar years ago, reduced the number of players on the pitch from 30 to 26, how did that work out. I’m sure the 30 players game is bigger than our game, both domestically and globally.
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| Personally I want to keep scrums.
It is a traditional part of the game. It gives the players a break on an already fast game.
Still keep the shot clock and I'd add that if you want to stop the clock by forming the scrum, the platers in the scrum when clock is stopped must stay in when play starts
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In reply, you scoff but to be fair RL has been changing the rules consistently since it began. If we hadn’t you’d be watching RU, is that what you want? Yes we get it wrong at times and in recent years it’s been a bit to often but all the same it drives the game.
To me RU is a game for nerds who love rules and regulation, RL is for those who wish to be entertained. With that comes an element of dumbing down or simplification depending how you see it but it’s still way better than kick and clap.
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| Quote: Redscat "a046.gif
Not sure if anyone has mentioned speeding up the game, most comments are around scrums not really being missed and how not having them, may help RL with its own identity.
I think there is work to be done on how to allow some breaks in play. The current situation with the "shot clock" counting down while the markers deliberately wait doesn't look great but, lets face it, scrums have been a joke in all of the 40+ years that I've been watching.
EVERY scrum is "fed" (in both League and Union) so, what's the point.
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| Quote: vastman "In reply, you scoff but to be fair RL has been changing the rules consistently since it began. If we hadn’t you’d be watching RU, is that what you want? Yes we get it wrong at times and in recent years it’s been a bit to often but all the same it drives the game.
I don't share your view on Union. Its a great game to play steeped in history with a great social scene attached to it. It is marketed perfectly and has a massive international following.
And rugby has Laws not Rules.
It's just different to League. I far prefer league to watch but Union is enjoyable too.
Having more complex rules doesn't make it for nerds.
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| I think scrums should go but shot clock time reduced too
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