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That's it, they played because they had to play, not to develop them as it should be.

Last season can be broken into three really distinctive parts;

1.(first third) Lots of failure and fatigue, a lack of confidence and self belief in the squad

2. (Second third) self belief and a new found freedom on the pitch, players running hard and expansive, opposition teams became clueless on how to play against the squad

3. (Final third) a mounting list of injuries took its toll, play slowed down and became more predictable in an attempt to preserve the players we had. Once the top 8 was secure and the CC was lost then it quickly turned into an off season and the players seemed to treat the games more like friendlies, willing to try new ideas and plays but lacking the depth of squad to be able to really commit

Just as another point; had we played to the same standard and winning rate under Smith as we did under Chester, Wakefield would have finished the regular 23 rounds on 28 points (possibly more)

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Think it depends on who's coming in to the front row. Currently we barely have enough to field 2 props so a lot for me will depend on who fills the front row. We will see

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Quote: PopTart "INOUTI disagree. Solomon a scored a lot of tries made for him.
If he goes they won't lose 40 tries, as someone else will be stood there catching the ball.
They also have Roberts back.

Dornoch is the bigger loss imho'"


Disagree partially. Yes Dorn and Gale provided opportunities but at least half of his finishes were other worldly, including the one where he didn't have to ground the ball over the line to score against Salford.

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Quote: Willzay "Disagree partially. Yes Dorn and Gale provided opportunities but at least half of his finishes were other worldly, including the one where he didn't have to ground the ball over the line to score against Salford.'"


That's right. In Denny's world, you don't have to ground the ball. In Peyroux's world, grounding the ball isn't enough. In the first, it was obvious from the footage that he hadn't but the video ref still gave it. In the latter, it was obvious he had, but the ref wouldn't give it. It's hard to actually work out who scored what.

My own view: slightly worried. Chester had a great 2015 at KR, with a Wembley trip and a cruise through the middle 8's, but the close season saw his team turn to nothing. I'm concerned about the same happening with us, although Kear may steady that ship.

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To be fair though Slugger, I don't think Chessie was given a fair crack at Hull KR in 2016. Much to our benefit.

He was gone after 3 games in the season, which I just think is too soon for anyone.

Looking back at their results over those 3 games, a creditable draw with Cas, an away defeat to Warrington, and home defeat to us. In the defeat to us, I think they actually out scored us try wise, but failed to kick a goal. The usually reliable Mantellato I believe got injured in the first game, and either Dixon or Sio was the goalkicker that day

The club were cruelly hit through injury right from the start of the season

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Quote: Eastern Wildcat "To be fair though Slugger, I don't think Chessie was given a fair crack at Hull KR in 2016. Much to our benefit.

He was gone after 3 games in the season, which I just think is too soon for anyone.

Looking back at their results over those 3 games, a creditable draw with Cas, an away defeat to Warrington, and home defeat to us. In the defeat to us, I think they actually out scored us try wise, but failed to kick a goal. The usually reliable Mantellato I believe got injured in the first game, and either Dixon or Sio was the goalkicker that day

The club were cruelly hit through injury right from the start of the season'"


Yes, you're probably right. I wonder if there was something else going on, because 3 games was very quick.

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Quote: Slugger McBatt "Yes, you're probably right. I wonder if there was something else going on, because 3 games was very quick.'"


I think Jamie Peacock was what was going on, empire building and cocked it up

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Wouldn't be a start to a new season without us being predicted to finish bottom.

Stupid thing at this stage is a few teams haven't done any recruiting and most have done little, so how can you predict.

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It could well have been Slugger.

However casting our minds back to around round 3 a kot of fans thought things were quite rosy with Smith. I was certainly surprised when he quit.

However behind closed they werent for a couple of months prior.

Who knows, hard to say

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Doesn't matter, we can pack up after about half a dozen games and concentrate on the middle 8's next season and when it comes to the crunch, signing a brand new team.
That should get some fans foaming at the mouth but strangely enough,not much was mentioned about teams 'strengthening' for the middle 8's this year! eusa_think.gif

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As others have said its way too early yet to predict a teams performance next year when squads haven't been finalised.

Its clear that at least one more prop is required if not two with only England, Hirst and Arona (as cover)... can see Walker following Yates out of the squad.

At present Trinity clearly do not have enough depth in the front row but I'm sure CC & MC will be working behind the scenes to rectify that. If the team strengthen in this area sufficiently then I'm sure there is sufficient quality in the backs to benefit. Fingers crossed with injuries and form and hopefully another top 8 next year!

Just don't bring in Crabtree or Huby... icon_razz.gifRAY:

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I agree there Asmadasa.

We also have Keegan Hirst too. Dont know enough about him to rave or slate about, but will need to be given a chance at some point.

I also think that we need so get whatever issues were going off with Scott Moore sorted as soon as possible and Anthony Tupou.

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Quote: Eastern Wildcat "I agree there Asmadasa.

We also have Keegan Hirst too. Dont know enough about him to rave or slate about, but will need to be given a chance at some point.

I also think that we need so get whatever issues were going off with Scott Moore sorted as soon as possible and Anthony Tupou.'"

I mentioned Hirst in my post but forgot Simon who can play prop effectively from the bench so two genuine props with 2 that can cover the role.

Need a proven top experienced big prop to play alongside England and not put too much pressure on Hirst early on.....wonder if Scruton will be offered a new deal and not go Hull KR after all....

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Quote: asmadasa "As others have said its way too early yet to predict a teams performance next year when squads haven't been finalised.

Its clear that at least one more prop is required if not two with only England, Hirst and Arona (as cover)... can see Walker following Yates out of the squad.

At present Trinity clearly do not have enough depth in the front row but I'm sure CC & MC will be working behind the scenes to rectify that. If the team strengthen in this area sufficiently then I'm sure there is sufficient quality in the backs to benefit. Fingers crossed with injuries and form and hopefully another top 8 next year!

Just don't bring in Crabtree or Huby... Thought Walker had gone as well but can see he's still got another year on his contract. Tbh he's still fairly young for a Prop at 24 and if he isn't on much he might be worth keeping for cover, unless the club have a better plan.

Agree with you though, if we get can get our Prop quality and depth sorted out, we'll have a better team than last year imo. It all comes down to Fifita, if he signs we just need another SL quality Prop, if he goes we'll probably have to find a similar replacement from down under.

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Fifita brother is having a rough time in the NRL at the moment...

A man can dream...

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