this whole thing is sad. first and foremost i'm a rugby league fan, a lifelong wakefield trinity fan. i don't want cas to fail, i want rugby league to be as big as possible and i include featherstone in that as well. i want wakefield to do better; much better. however if we can't, i wouldn't wish any ill will on cas or fev or any other team.

in an ideal world cas and fev would be in big new grounds in front of packed houses, coming in as runners up to us in all competitions.

Where? When?

Heart agrees.

Head says that the only way to secure the future of RL in the WMDC is to centralise all resources at the City club; in real terms, that means a merger with Cas, with Fev in the mix as a feeder club - a bit like the Aussie system. All of this based of course at NM, which as everyone *really * knows, is the only new stadium that will be built in the district in the forseeable future.

I don't like it, but it's the only way that both clubs will avoid limping along as perennial under-achievers.

p.s I am not Ian Millward.

As long as this centralised city club had the name "Wakefield Trinity" & played at NM/in Wakefield I'd be ok with it.

Fev I think have accepted their place as an NL side, all we have to do to bring about that side of the agreement is build ourselves and our new ground & wait. The NL structure as it is won't go on forever, Fev like most other clubs fly very close to the wind. The next time a financial crisis looms AG should be there, take them under our wing and formalise a structure of "funnelling" talent to the city club and back out to feeder clubs through the dual-reg system.

Cas on the other hand IMO would never accept this, they don't hold any loyalty to the city that enables them to function as any sort of society. Cas folk have never got into bed with the WMDC ideology, the resentment is born into them. Thus find the idea (however correct it maybe) of centralisation of RL talent sickening. They cling onto a pit town mentality, a town where the pits died years ago & the only thing that holds any sort of civic pride is their RL team. Losing that would be losing the last shred of their civic pride.
The only way I could ever see CT becoming part of a centralised programme would be if GH failed & NM was built, leaving them without a licence. Even then I doubt any sort of "working relationship" would be untenable because of the very nature of the relationship WT & CT fans have been nurtured in.

A better idea: Fev and Dewsbury.

Which as we all know, is what will actually happen.

You have to joking, it’s a right laugh.

Some of the nonsense spouted on here is ludicrous, but they take it to a higher level.

Whenever I have a look, I feel like Jack Nicholson in One Flew over the Cuckoo’s nest.

I’ve no idea how it will pan out with Newmarket or Glasshoughton, but, I presume I’m with the vast majority. But dredging through old documents to alleviate the current problems they are incurring is cold comfort.

That's spooky - I was toying with exactly the same analogy.

What never ceases to amaze me is that both sets of fans have their complete and utter tools, who insist on attacking each other with the same insults, which could be levied at either side if we're being honest. I really wish these people would sod off to a merged club and leave the rest of us alone to support our team rather than worrying about what your neighbour is up to

Can they even read in Cas yet?? Sure they've got their own funding issues to worry about

see steadygetyerboots on's post.

"Cas on the other hand IMO would never accept this, they don't hold any loyalty to the city that enables them to function as any sort of society. Cas folk have never got into bed with the WMDC ideology, the resentment is born into them. Thus find the idea (however correct it maybe) of centralisation of RL talent sickening. They cling onto a pit town mentality, a town where the pits died years ago & the only thing that holds any sort of civic pride is their RL team. Losing that would be losing the last shred of their civic pride.
The only way I could ever see CT becoming part of a centralised programme would be if GH failed & NM was built, leaving them without a licence. Even then I doubt any sort of "working relationship" would be untenable because of the very nature of the relationship WT & CT fans have been nurtured in."

As a Tigers supporter I actually agree with most of this. We have no "connection" with Wakefield whatsoever. Ferrybridge and Knottingley are 1.5 miles away from Townville in Castleford. Another 0.5 mile away and you are in Kellington which is inside the North Yorkshire boundary. I would much rather the town of Castleford sever all council ties with Wakefield and either come under North Yorkshire or even Leeds.

Don't agree with the bit about "pit town mentality". You need to scrub up on your history. Wakefield (like Cas) has a great mining heritage but probably most of its inhabitants might have an ignorance towards this.

Overall though (apart from the "big" city pomposity) not a bad summary of the relationship.

Wakefield dies have a bug history with mines but the people of the city seem to have got over it whereas the surrounding villages seem not to have.

Why "get over it" ? - It's something to be proud of - not ashamed of (a bit like the Barbara Hepworth Gallery).

Don't forget Wakefield has a mining museum. Are you saying this should be "got over" as well ?

No im saying that we have moved on, the bitterness is a distant memory, move on they ain't coming back Arthur.