Thats like being proud of being the worlds tallest dwarf. You get more crowds after over 100 years than a club which is expanding the game in its 6th year, and another which is realistically in its 17th at a maximum. Plus you arent that much more than Crusaders, and Crusaders are much further ahead than you were in your 3rd year of SL.

Salfords crowds are unacceptable at the moment.

Its still not comparable to The Stoop and it seems a strange thing to criticise Quins for renting a good quality stadium made for rugby like the Stoop when Wakefields options are the equivelant of putting lipstick on a pig in the hope the RFL dont notice it is a cynical attempt to do the bare minimum or go rent a football stadium in a different county.

The academy GF is for the lads playing in it. It is a very very poor way of judging the quality of youth development. I have seen Leeds academy sides blow away everyone and no players go on to play first team, and squads barely making the play-offs produce two or three quality first team players. Quins have done fantastic in bringing players through, players like Jamie O'callaghan, Olsi Krasniqui, Ben Bolger, not forgetting players playing elsewhere like Will Sharp, or internationals like LMS and Tony Clubb.

Lots of people state lots of things. Wakefield were bust at the start of the year, Quins carry no real debt.

It isnt, realistically it isnt one of the biggest names in the game and has no greater tradition than a lot of clubs.

If you need to believe that, carry on, it bothers me not. You seem to have taken this defeat by Quins pretty badly though and your lashing out is quite funny to watch.

You surely cannot be that much of a knuckle dragging neanderthal to think I would be insulted by you insinuating Im a woman could you? most of us grew out of that quite young, mostly when we quickly found out women were much better than us.

Yet more rubbish. I would point out the errors in your comments but I don't want to waste my time as it would only prompt a further response from you, that would be full of more drivel.

That and you can't. But its ok.

Is she still here?

Last reply to you. You have just proved my earlier point, the only opinion you value is your own even though its based largely on mis-truths and lack of knowledge. You are probably one of the few people I have come across on these forums who would not admit they were wrong even if it became glaringly obvious.

Is the inference that Im a woman a sexual thing on your part? its cool if it is, your choices are your own and you should be proud of them, Gareth Thomas and Ian Roberts led the way, you shouldnt be ashamed.

If not, and its just a comprehension issue then fair enough.

We all know that your post is about me because you cant address what I said. You attack me because you cant attack what I said. It really isnt as clever a ploy as you think.

Ok let's leave it there with the insults if you wish to discuss the game or Quins do so, if you wish to squabble use the pm system. Cheers.

Sounded like Hickey had a good game on radio. Sounded like every move died when hendo touched the ball. Been good to win today to send a statement to the RFL . We should have been at them early as there confidence would have been shot after losing 11 in a row.

I tell you what, there's nothing more frustrating in the world than being a Trin fan!

Its not easy is it, one week up and three weeks down and thats in a good month.

Still, its harder to take for those who went down today, you and me don't have the long haul back and we ain't £50 lighter.