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| Quote: RickK "Not sure how old your dear old granny was when she shared this but it's a quote from the bible'"
It might have been my great grandmother then, Rick. I can't quite remember.
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| I have said that I was glad of our win last night but I also believe that based on our performances over the last two seasons that Chester is not the man for the job. To be considered a true supporter is not defined by a belief that Chester is the man. I consider him to be lucky that he is the coach at Wakefield because with his record he would not have been given so long to prove himself by turning the performances around anywhere else.
I don’t think they are blind but my reference relates to being in denial or why would I mention the other two evils.
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| Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "I have said that I was glad of our win last night but I also believe that based on our performances over the last two seasons that Chester is not the man for the job. To be considered a true supporter is not defined by a belief that Chester is the man. I consider him to be lucky that he is the coach at Wakefield because with his record he would not have been given so long to prove himself by turning the performances around anywhere else.
I don’t think they are blind but my reference relates to being in denial or why would I mention the other two evils.'"
Why are they in denial? Just because they don’t agree with your synopsis on the situation.
Ever thought they might be right and your wrong? Maybe MC’s backing of Chester isn’t because they are ‘mates’ allegedly but because he’s in a far better position than any of us to know what’s really going on.
It’s funny how only one of the three players fathers on here have voiced a negative opinion. I’m not saying the one that has is wrong but he’s not necessarily right either, he’s hardly unbiased. Ditto Mr Cross, just because he hails from these parts doesn’t automatically mean he’s well informed.
All I can say is that those 17 players last night looked to be very happy with the result, not what you’d expect from a coach hating team.
I reserve the right to change my mind based on what I see and last night I liked what I saw. Last week I was disgusted with what I saw, this week I saw a different team. It seems to me that last week Chester was blasted for saying what we all thought. People didn’t like the fact that he refused to accept it was his fault. Last night seemed to vindicate that, as the team made it clear they wanted to play for him.
To early to say whether he’s fixed the problem but as is so often trotted out on here your only as good as your last game! As of now CC is on the up and if he keeps winning or at least performing he’ll have me back on side.
You can’t have it both ways, you can’t blast him for losing and then carry on kicking him if we start winning. If that starts to become the norm again then CC is my man again, it’s only fair.
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| Think some people need to be stuffing their faces with humble pie. Well played Wakefield.
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| I listened to todays game on Radio Humberside, the commentators were fair in their criticism of HKR and praise of Trinity. They claimed that the recent press reports about Trinity were not as a result of a player's comments but from a "disgruntled former board member" I wonder who that could be !
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| Whoever it was they've done us a massive favour. We were in a rut in a meaningless season and could finished it like a damp squib. Admittedly it has been against the weaker teams in the competition but we have looked a much tighter unit and more importantly look happy again.
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| Quote: Khlav Kalash "Whoever it was they've done us a massive favour. We were in a rut in a meaningless season and could finished it like a damp squib. Admittedly it has been against the weaker teams in the competition but we have looked a much tighter unit and more importantly look happy again.'"
They did though I doubt that was the intention.
I speculate that the players were offered the chance to air their grievances, Chester listened and said if I take some of your ideas on board will show me what you can do? That doesn’t mean CC capitulated as I suspect the game plan was still his but one that was modified to suit the team as it currently is.
It’s how management works. It’s not about getting your way it’s about getting others to see it your way, it’s subtle but it’s there. I doubt that all that much changed in terms of style, tactic and positions in truth but everyone likes to think they are being listened too. That’s probably all it needed, at least in the short term, a lesson learned I hope.
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| So are we saying the 2 wins are in spite of covid issues, injuries etc, and the 10 defeats because of covid issues, injuries etc?!!!! The performances simply weren't good enough to warrant winning, maybe the players stopped feeling sorry for themselves, rolled up their sleeves and had a go!! It just looked like a team free of something today, especially in the 1st half. There are a lot of talented players in this squad who have been underperforming badly for whatever 'reasons.' Great to see smiles and enjoyment back again!!
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| Nice to see a more familiar looking back line, more reminiscent of that of a more successful period. Hopefully a more settled side can now see the season out with a smile.
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| Quote: Wildmoggy "So are we saying the 2 wins are in spite of covid issues, injuries etc, and the 10 defeats because of covid issues, injuries etc?!!!! The performances simply weren't good enough to warrant winning, maybe the players stopped feeling sorry for themselves, rolled up their sleeves and had a go!! It just looked like a team free of something today, especially in the 1st half. There are a lot of talented players in this squad who have been underperforming badly for whatever 'reasons.' Great to see smiles and enjoyment back again!!'"
There are a lot of factors in play both on losing 10 then winning two. Success hinges on small things. Had we pulled back that first Wigan game I wonder where we would be now, but we didn’t and we went backwards especially with the loss of TJ and a few others in that game. It was pivotal as was last Thursday but in a very different way.
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| Quote: MC_Wildcat "I listened to todays game on Radio Humberside, the commentators were fair in their criticism of HKR and praise of Trinity. They claimed that the recent press reports about Trinity were not as a result of a player's comments but from a "disgruntled former board member" I wonder who that could be !'"
I would suggest the ex board member is the one that tried to take over another rugby league club, as he went to a well known public school for boys in Wakefield with a certain chief sports writer of the Daily Star.
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| Quote: Brian Briggs Ghost "I would suggest the ex board member is the one that tried to take over another rugby league club, as he went to a well known public school for boys in Wakefield with a certain chief sports writer of the Daily Star.'"
Damn!!! I've been rumbled.
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| Let's not speculate without actual evidence. They are real people you are talking about and can cause a lot of problems if you are wrong.
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| Quote: RickK "Not sure how old your dear old granny was when she shared this but it's a quote from the bible'"
Not everybody reads (especially nowadays) or read the bible,but the saying is absolutely spot on.
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| Quote: Wildmoggy "So are we saying the 2 wins are in spite of covid issues, injuries etc, and the 10 defeats because of covid issues, injuries etc?!!!! The performances simply weren't good enough to warrant winning, maybe the players stopped feeling sorry for themselves, rolled up their sleeves and had a go!! It just looked like a team free of something today, especially in the 1st half. There are a lot of talented players in this squad who have been underperforming badly for whatever 'reasons.' Great to see smiles and enjoyment back again!!'"
It’s not exactly rocket science when you look into it...
We lost nine straight after lockdown...
Seven of those were against teams currently sat in the top four.
One was a ‘home’ game against Huddersfield that we ended up playing at theirs and was an even game barring Aidan Sezer who was the clear difference between two struggling sides....the other loss being a tight game against a depleted Hull side but we were depleted too...Hull were favourites to win the game at every bookies in the land....
We didn’t have home advantage in any of those games which for a team like us is a major plus...we had injuries, disruptions and were in a rut and low on confidence....we slowly started getting our star players and match winners back on the field though...game changers like Johnstone and Fifita...our pack leaders and experience in Ashurst and Arona and I’d even add BJB into that.
We’ve then taken on two beatable teams...Huddersfield without them having home advantage and came through to win that, then the first game since lockdown that we’ve been favourites to win...with home advantage...with the majority of our quality players on the field and we’ve put them to the sword...
You could see in the first half the confidence come flooding back...giving the ball some air, offloads, numerous players backing breaks up etc...
That’s how I see it anyway...
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