Im not disagreeing with the points you make.But the RFL,i think,signed up to abide by WADA guidelines,so everyone knows the consequences.

Maybe WADA look at the bigger picture,in that recreational drugs(although personal choice),can lead to carnage and unhappiness for others around the user,where as performance enhancing is only likely to affect the user.
I do agree with you that someone taking rec.drugs is not a cheat in the same way as someone doing performance enhancing.My point is only that all players are aware of the consequences of doing either and therefore deserve everything they get.

just because the rules are as they are doesnt mean they are right. Nor does it mean those punished by them get 'everything they deserve'

It isnt WADAs place to start moralising on any issue

The main job now is to focus the team. There's no point in us trying to defend anyone because he wears red, white and blue, and even less point in other fans having a go at Wakey because he potentially brought to his new club the baggage from his personal life. If he took something knowingly, he knows the score and will be punished accordingly. It may end his career, given his age, and I do have some sympathy with him, but there are many jobs where a drug issue would result in the sack; the police, for instance.

I'm just irritated because it has taken the gloss off the good start, particularly just after a good win. The saving graces are that he hasn't been with the team long and so can hardly be described as pivotal, and we could just as easily lost him to injury, and so you can't bank on players being available all season. At least now we can bank the cash, maybe bring on some more youngsters, or be in a better position to retain the services of current players.

Anyone who knows the facts knows that it has very little to do with Wakey, and so the whingeing whinos should wind their necks in, but equally, as Wakey fans, we should share their anger, because we don't know what effect this will have within the team at a time when they looked a good, hard-working unit.

Not going to read through 10 pages of what I presume is rubbish. Just wanted to say that if he has done it, he is a very silly man, and it will be a sad end to a career as I cant see anyone touching him if he is banned for two years. He will be 33(?) in two years time.
He once came into our school and seemed like the ultimate proffessional. He was really good with the kids as well, and spent ages telling them about keeping fit, how to be a good player etc.

having not commented on this before, i am disappointed that we have drugs in our game (although i accept that it is bound to happen) and especially diappointed that the player is one of ours.

although he probably wasn't under contract to us (i believe contracts run 1st dec- 30 nov), he would have been training with us. i do not believe anyone conncted with the game blames or points the finger at wakefield, but yuo can bet the fans will. especially those fans who hate terry anyway (e.g. st helens)

from this point on, what happens to terry, happens to terry.

i would like to wakefield use the money we are not paying terry to pay for a test, or series of tests for all of our players. i believe that this would help us in the community and hopefully (?) prove that no other wakfield player was taking drugs. it would show wakefields stance on drugs and hopefully go a long way to isolate the club from the incident.

overall, i personally would like to see the game test everyone, but it seems that we are just following the WADA guidelines. although, if this is the tip of the iceburg, how big would the iceburg be?


one thing that does puzzle me is that i assume that all new players to the club undergo a physical to prove their fitness. wouldn't the club include a simple drugs test as part of this physical?

This wouldn't really work though would it, unless you didn't tell the players that you were going to do it, and sprung it on them after a match or training session. If, (and there are no accusations here!) any player was taking anything, they could simply stop before the 'drug test' was going to take place if they knew about it.

IMHO...before i get attacked from other posters...i think if you went to every superleague club and gave them tests without them knowing ..there would possibly be a list of players in the same situation as Mr Newton...

Don't think it's quite as simple as that,I think PE drugs stay in your system for some time.

Think the media knew about this,League weekly said something along the lines of 'Bad news usually comes in three's,we've had the Huddersfield rape allegations,Catalans players fighting,keep your eyes on the papers this week'.They weren't wrong!
For what it's worth i'd suggest Wakey are blameless in this particular dilemma,I think TN's brought this with him.

dont know why these leeds rhinos are all getting upset we all know they all have there heads up there own s and have been sniffing for years and we have never complained

Bring young Davey through and buy another prop with the spare cash that will do me. It maybe a sad end to a really good career. Bet Terry is kicking himself as he was looking forward so much to be a TRIN player and doing well for us.

The really "very silly" thing about this whole sorry story is that for some reason it will take 8 weeks to resolve. This sadly amongst other things allows far to much time for mindless speculation and character assasination to take place.

This is no great issue if guilty, but if innocent it's a slur to his playing career that he will probably never get over. If this is the case then the only silly thing TN is guilty of is peeing into a bottle when requested.

The whole thing has farce written all over it, guilty or not.

indeed. 8 weeks is a joke. speaking generally people need to remember that it's not a black and white issue there is a lot of grey inbetween. if you read the barnett piece he was banned for having amounts of whatever in his system of iirc 5.3, when the limit was 4. previously the limit had been 6 but been changed. so if he'd have been tested earlier he may very well not have failed. i appreciate i haven't been very succinct but you get my drift . it is not an exact science as far as i can tell and there will be situations where cheats get away with it when tested and those who may be innocent banned.

too early for Davey , it could wreck 2 careers if rushed.. we have a few players as options that kear could put on the bench. Blanch is ready to return as is blymire , Johnson , king ect .

Having worked at the club as one of the physios I still have the RFL Anti-doping Booklet (100% ME) from a couple of years ago. This booklet is given out to all players of all levels.

It clearly states that the player is responsible and NOBODY else - not the Club, not the Club Doctor, not the Physio and not the GP. The player himself is responsible for checking the status of any substance, medication and supplement, whether prescribed or not, before they use it.

The list of safe medications for various conditions is in this booklet as is the list of prohibited substances ... and this is updated at regular intervals.

So IF found guilty nobody else is to blame, or be used in mitigation, but the player himself.