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Having seen how nervous Box appeared at the Council Meeting earlier this year when the matter was discussed,it will be interesting to see how he reacts when being cross examined by a QC.Many years ago I appeared as a defence witness in a civil case and the way the defence QC challenged the opposition witnesses with his detailed knowledge of the issue was impressive.These guys earn big money but they earn it by the work they do prior to the court appearance and will have read and researched every statement and agreement relating to the case.If Box stands up and claims that minutes of meetings were not kept and he can't remember who gave any "legal advice" he will be torn to shreds.

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Quote: MC_Wildcat "Having seen how nervous Box appeared at the Council Meeting earlier this year when the matter was discussed,it will be interesting to see how he reacts when being cross examined by a QC.Many years ago I appeared as a defence witness in a civil case and the way the defence QC challenged the opposition witnesses with his detailed knowledge of the issue was impressive.These guys earn big money but they earn it by the work they do prior to the court appearance and will have read and researched every statement and agreement relating to the case.If Box stands up and claims that minutes of meetings were not kept and he can't remember who gave any "legal advice" he will be torn to shreds.'"



I too was in the public gallery at that meeting and yes in a court room he would be exposed. I think there is every possibility he would stand down rather than have to succumb to his fate in the courts.

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Let's hope justice prevails in the end, and this corruption doesn't extend any further up the hierarchy. Wish I was there to see Box, Yorkcourt and their minions squirm - shame we can't get coverage of that on Sky too!

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I was in the gallery that day and if box speaks in court as confidently as he did in the council chamber we're halfway there!

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I agree that there needs to be full accountability if any wrongdoing has taken place.

However it would be naive to think the councillors and top council officers would be like deer in the headlights when it comes to a court date.

I'm sure they have been taking legal advice at every step and you can be fairly confident they'll be no mugs....

As I say, I would hope there is full accountability but I wouldn't be counting chicken's at this point. I'm sure the club and trust are proceeding very carefully, it's certainly not going to be an easy ride.

It will be very very interesting from a relatively neutral point of view

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Quote: DAVE@CAS1990 "I agree that there needs to be full accountability if any wrongdoing has taken place.

However it would be naive to think the councillors and top council officers would be like deer in the headlights when it comes to a court date.

I'm sure they have been taking legal advice at every step and you can be fairly confident they'll be no mugs....

As I say, I would hope there is full accountability but I wouldn't be counting chicken's at this point. I'm sure the club and trust are proceeding very carefully, it's certainly not going to be an easy ride.

It will be very very interesting from a relatively neutral point of view'"


Like they took legal advice regarding Newcold.

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Quote: Sandal Cat "Like they took legal advice regarding Newcold.'"

They took legal advice but couldn't rember from whom, or when and if it was minuted. That advice?

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Quote: JINJER "They took legal advice but couldn't rember from whom, or when and if it was minuted. That advice?'"


Catnip for Barristers icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

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Quote: JINJER "They took legal advice but couldn't rember from whom, or when and if it was minuted. That advice?'"


Yes the advice that they claimed to have taken but could not produce when asked to do so under the FOI Act.

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Quote: JINJER "They took legal advice but couldn't rember from whom, or when and if it was minuted. That advice?'"




If they had taken good independent legal advice throughout this process. AND HAD ACTED ON IT I feel we would be much nearer to a stadium. Their past actions and decisions, along with recent press comments tells you how clueless they are.

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Quote: JINJER "They took legal advice but couldn't rember from whom, or when and if it was minuted. That advice?'"



Lmao

That is wakey council through and through
They are a complete shambles

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Quote: DAVE@CAS1990 "I agree that there needs to be full accountability if any wrongdoing has taken place.

However it would be naive to think the councillors and top council officers would be like deer in the headlights when it comes to a court date.

I'm sure they have been taking legal advice at every step and you can be fairly confident they'll be no mugs....

As I say, I would hope there is full accountability but I wouldn't be counting chicken's at this point. I'm sure the club and trust are proceeding very carefully, it's certainly not going to be an easy ride.

It will be very very interesting from a relatively neutral point of view'"


It might be easy standing up in front of your colleagues in the Council chamber, but standing in front of a judge in the Law Courts is a totally different situation altogether.
Believe me I have been there on lots of occasions over the past 28 years (for the prosecution, I might add icon_beat.gif

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Quote: FIL "It might be easy standing up in front of your colleagues in the Council chamber, but standing in front of a judge in the Law Courts is a totally different situation altogether.
Believe me I have been there on lots of occasions over the past 28 years (for the prosecution, I might add
Luckily I've never had that experience and that's not something I'd wish to change, but I can certainly imagine it's pretty intense.

We all know deep down that some things that have occurred in this process are "unusual" shall we say..... However the labour council has been around a long long time, and I'm sure they've acted in such a way to cover their tracks or negotiate their way through loopholes etc etc.

As I say, it'd be very naive to just now assume that a QC is going to unravel an entire local government with 40 odd tears worth of experience in these matters.

I'm not saying it won't be done, I'm just fairly confident it won't be plain sailing.

The council have maneuvered their way through this entire saga in such a way nobody could've ever anticipated - I'm sure when NM got approved a few years ago nobody expected what has followed.

I certainly hope justice prevails and I'm confident it will, whether that's for the benefit of the club and community or not....

But leopards don't change their spots and I'd be very surprised if this legal battle will be quick and easy

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Quote: FIL "It might be easy standing up in front of your colleagues in the Council chamber, but standing in front of a judge in the Law Courts is a totally different situation altogether.
Believe me I have been there on lots of occasions over the past 28 years (for the prosecution, I might add I’ve been stood in court being drilled by barristers both as a witness and the prosecutor and like you say FIL, not a nice position. All I wanted to do was jump over the dock and rip his face off, very clever people.

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