Right everyone. It doesn't matter what you think of the shirt unless it's a positive opinion - just buy the shirts because Bren told you to.

I won't be buying one.....they just don't suit me.
I may buy other items.

I'll post my shopping list for good supporter approval

Thought the shirts looked good on here and having seen them in the shop today both shirts look equally as good and when others see them close up a lot will change there mind and want to buy one, the other merchandise on offer is also quality as well.

The blue one is growing on me. Think the big white plumbcare banner lets it down a bit.

Correct.

Or don't buy it - just don't justify not buying it by moaning about the design or the colour or some other aesthetic imperfection; as for objecting to sponsor logos - I'm guessing a fundamental and basic lack of understanding of how sports clubs are funded is the root cause?

If anyone wants to PM me their shopping list, I'll be happy to approve them.

I'll PM you mine, don't need the approval but if you could just pay for them it would be really helpful. Thanks

I'll justify it by moaning about the design as that, along with the lack of quality again, is the reason i'm not buying it. If people want to pay premium prices for what is in my opinion (theirs may differ, i accept that) a poor looking, shapeless, effort just because it has a badge screen printed on it then good on them, i've done it many times before myself and i wouldn't call anyone for doing so. But not any more, i like value for money more these days thanks. I'll have a look at some of the other merchandise over the course of the season instead and see if that fits the bill instead but i feel the club has missed out here as i doubt my spend will be the ninety quid it would normally have been and the Mrs also doesn't like either shirt so won't get one for the first time in many a moon. And the chances of her buying anything else from the shop are zero so it's all lost revenue i'm afraid.

That's entirely your prerogative theboyem; I do question the meaning of 'value' in this context however. Personally, I buy a shirt, chuck it on over whatever exceptionally stylish and carefully chosen top I'm wearing on match day, then take it off when I get home and forget about it until next week. Anyone buying a Wakey shirt as a key item in that years capsule wardrobe, with the intention of wearing it to social occasions and possibly the odd wedding or christening, could rightly feel that it wasn't fit for purpose - but that's a bit like buying a Nissan Micra for towing your caravan, then complaining that it's not up to the job.

I've had issues with the quality of Macron gear in the past and if it's a deal breaker for you, so be it - but if everyone takes that attitude, there'll certainly be none of the mid-season signings that people seem to be hoping for.

…. which is why it’s important to produce something most people will want to buy. The virtues of the design can be argued all day long but generally if people don't like something they won’t buy it, that's only going to hurt the club. It’s daft business practice to alienate potential consumers, particularly when you got to sell circa £100k worth of kit.

Still, here’s hoping the cotton shirts due for release after Christmas are more appealing to mop up the supporters who don’t purchase the plastic bag replicas.

and how do you know most people don't want to buy it 90% of people on twitter and fb are saying they love it and its about 50/50 on here so don't think its much of a mistake

And how do you know most people do?

90%? I'd love to know how you've come up with that.

Completely agree.

By seeing what he wants to see, or what MC retweets. I'd say from what i've seen it's 50-50 which i would have thought is a quite low hit rate for a replica shirt.

I have to say there are some shockers throughout superleague this year so it won't stand out as bad as it might have done. And at least it's not the Cas, Leeds or Huddersfield shirts which are horrendous.

in sorry in wrong your right because i bet u have got all the figures havnt you