Just to short cut this whole "Agar never gave youth a chance" thing, we had the hwole discussion when he came to us and it was blatantly untrue. Youth played under him and made their debuts.
The Hull fans with an axe to grind simply ignored this fact.

And his ironic that he couldn't motivate Hull in the derby but can motivate Wakefield to d so well against Hull. Seems like an issue at Hull not just Agar

So their current ages are 21, 21, 22, 24, 22 respectively so that makes them the following ages when Agar left

Shaul 18
Crooks 18
Bowden 19
Green 21
Hadley 19

I'd say your youth development at that time was pretty good, if Agar was responsible for their development, they came from young teens (was he there 3 years?) to play for Hull first team after he left.
If they were good enough at that age for Hull then so be it, but only just if they were.

You may well be right that Agar isn't the greatest at developing the youth. You'll get lots of debate here about it. But your evidence soesn't show it.

And now that I look, you have not been as successful in number of wins or league position since he left.

Must have missed that, can you remind me?

I remember you were in the conversations.

One guy that I remember is a young stand off that everybody was complaining about not being played by Agar.
When we checked the stats Agar gave him his debut.
And then the next coach didn't play him either.

Beyond that I leave it to you to decide, but this is a Wakefield board so you can pick that up on yours if you like.

I'm looking forward to the game.
Hull have looked good on occassions this year but we have a relatively good record against you compared to most so I hope we spring a surprise.

I was responding to a post that Hull didnt have a youth setup and the fact he preferred to play people out of position rather than bring them in which reading a lot of Wakey posters complaining about playing people out of positions and having his favourites which can do no wrong I am suprised you just tell us its all about having an axe to grind with Agar.

I stand corrected.

don't know if there's been any progression - his favourite trick with us was to name a young player on the bench and not use him at all. we had berrigan and whiting at the time who could play a lot of positions, so it was ideal for him.

agar was not responsible for youth development - the main protaganist was andy last. i do agree that the lack of youth devt was not entirely due to agar though, the ownership at the time of one kath hetherington had quite a bit to do with it was well. adam pearson is on the record as saying how shocked he was at the lack of investment in yough facilities when he took over, just before agar's departure.

not sure where you get the fact about our league position not being any better since he left. agar did get us into 6th in his last season in charge, but before that we finished second bottom and third bottom under him. we've made the play offs every year since he left

Think Agar's team selection may be..

Sammut
Fox
Collis
Lynne
Riley
Sykes
Siejka
Anderson
McShane
Scruton
Ryan
Fairbank
Washbrook

Subs. Moore, Smith, Tautai and Sykes.

Not the team I'd go for.

On youth development, the number of young lads who've made their debuts in the last 3 years would suggest that Agar had actually got your youth system into a good position following John Kears reign. Ironically he's done the same thing here again following john Kear who had zero interest in the youth system and starved it of ANY resources while paying lip service to it during his tenure.

The fact that you reached the play offs in Agars last season and have done so ever since suggests that Agar had manoeuvred your 1st team into a solid position before he left and subsequent coaches have enjoyed the benefit.

so no place for our M O M last time out its strange how RFA makes plublic statements regarding Lubeys fittness but picka Lynne (who cant tackle or pass)even though he suffers alot from cramp

Hang on. That team is not from Agar.
Do we have to go through the. 'Blame Agar at all costs' on every thread?

And I expect you are bang on

You've got Sykes starting in the halves and on the bench. At first I thought it was just a mistake but thinking how the team selections have gone this season it could be possible!

I'd go for
Jowitt
Riley
Collis
Walshaw
Lyne
Sammut
Godinet
Anderson
McShane
Moore
Kirmond
Ryan
Annakin

Wildey
Malloy
Smith
Scruton

my mistake. The squad selections recently have been a little strange though so it wouldn't surprise me that one of these days we'll play with 16 with one player named twice.