We got told a couple of months ago that even if we lost, we'd never be beaten on effort. Since then, we have been beaten in effort and points in almost every game.

No direction today, looked like they we're only interested in the defeat. Credit to the couple of young lads, they were the only ones who put the effort in

Sorry, I'm slightly drunk, but if you think there was no effort there, you're talking out of your backside. MASSIVE effort to the end, just beaten by a full strength team that is streets ahead of all other teams in SL.

no pal effort by a few that's it

Who was not trying then? Please name names because I thought it was more down to execution and not effort

Disagree i’m afraid. If he wasn’t fit he shouldn’t have played. Reynolds would not have been any worse and the experience would have been invaluable. But Brough wanted to play and Chezzy, and i quote, wasn’t going to go against that. Wrong call, he was shocking. Won’t be his fault though i promise you.

Ok pal ,England, randall, lynne,time for kiro retire now

Personally, I thought there was effort there today, and right up until, for me,what was a shocking call,the sin binning of Rocky, we were in the game.

During that time they ran in 2 more tries.

Huge call regarding Broughie, but to be honest, thought he was more effective than Miller, and to be honest don't think we had much of a choice given the players out

For me, we are lacking a captain, who can rally the troops when we need it. I don't think hes that.

On a plus note, a good debut for Croft, and good performances from Crowther and Kershaw again.

Thought the booing of Kirmo when injured was in poor taste,but I will say this, we watched from.home today, and when the cameras were in our dressing room,when the cameras were on Kirmo, he just didn't look up for it. He did seem ok though and came round quite quick,when he was sat joking with Fifita. Been a great servant, but I think he's gone round one season too many.

Yes Miller captaincy is shambolic, no leadership qualities

well these last few games has knocked the stuffing out of me, I'll be happy if we get wins against Leeds and Cas at home in the coming weeks, I very much doubt we will be anywhere the top 5 at the end of the season it was good while it lasted

England and Randall ill give you. But lynne and kirmond are ridiculous suggestions. May be time for kirmond to retire, but not trying I'm not having.

England looks scared to me. Randell too slow. Wood for the full 90 looks the best.

Their first ten points and many subsequent points were down to stupid penalties that we insist on giving away in large numbers every game. Miiller was terrible, England was anonymous today and Broughie obviously should not have been playing. Like others, I agree that Croft, Kershaw and Crowther were very good and did not let the side down. Our creative ideas were almost non-existant for most of the match, but let's face it Saints were out of this world. I can honestly say that team are possibly the best I've ever witnessed in Super League. They seem tireless in both attack and defense. Whilst we lost by a large margin and were poor I don't think we let ourselves down too badly. Definite improvement required before Friday though.