The thing is we haven't played good rugby. At all. In fact, it starting to feel like 2015, getting whooped week after week with lack of fight.

Go the Board's main page and see how far you have to scroll to get to the Bulls forum, and note the teams you pass on the way down. At that point, consider that we've done okay this year.

Can't believe you think we haven't played any good rugby....up to the team being decimated by injuries we were going great imo. The wins over Hudds , league and cup, Warrington , Catalans x2 , Leeds etc plus the near misses it's been a fantastic season with some fantastic rugby.

Plus 62-0 against wigan and then going to there place and getting pipped in the last minute yer weve been crap this year

I have pointed your example out to some moaners and though you operate on 2-3 times the crowds and bigger budget etc we should be looking at how you built on last season. We've had a great year and some cracking youngsters coming through, I'm right behind MC and the boys.

Hope Hull go on to win the lot this year, had a cracking time with some of your lot at the Test match at your place last year. Will be cheering you on in the Challenge Cup final from Reighton Sands and I'm sure there'll be a few FC on hand to help

Meant in the super eights. I was responding to Dave K who was comparing situations with Hull last year in the eights.

And imo you were spot on. Yesterday was embarrassing in terms effort and basic core skills (or lack of them)

Finishing above Leeds for the the first time since Adam was a lad.

Sorry thought you meant overall...apologies. Yes, yesterday was particularly terrible.

Granted I haven't seen you play in the 8's yet, but your rugby before was good. It certainly cannot be a full comparison to Hull as we are better resourced, but I still think you are better for being in the 8's as you can prepare for next year, for example Rovers can't even babe their coach until they are confirmed back in SL.

At the start of the season all I wanted was to have a team that could beat the others if they were down on numbers or off form. I got sick last year of poor teams coming to belle Vue and hammering us even if they were playing rubbish.
This year has been brilliant as we have taken advantage of most teams who were not at their best. It's been entertaining, exciting and best of all we are not in the middle 8s.
I know it's frustrating now but we've already had the best season we could have hoped for so I can forgive the poor form now.

Huddersfield might get relegated.

No arguments there Dave.

MAIN reason is that we are not in the middle 8's!! that is reason to be overjoyed!!

if we don't make changes to the squad with players in key positions I really worry re next year- we got lucky this one

Thank you, I watched him closely on the England academy tour and thought he was excellent. Impressed me more than Leeds' highly rated Cameron Smith.