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| Quote: Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo "Hardly surprising when they have the clout to cherry-pick youngsters from well outside their immediate area. Good job Toppo didn't come through during the current era.'"
He didn't start playing until quite late I seem to remember. He'd have been written off by most as he wasn't coming through the academy.
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| Quote: Theboyem "Wane has said the 19 man squad may change yet as they have injuries to check on tomorrow. I'd be surprised to see O'Loughlin play 3 games in a week, especially with them playing Saints next week.
We will never get a better chance to turn them over.'"
It is very understable for you to conclude that you have a good chance to turn Wigan over. However, there are some very good young players in that squad and they are very very hungry. Wakefield will have to play very well to win. Having seen how good these young players are I am no longer phased by their inclusion in such numbers. They slot into the system so well that you can't easily tell who is making a debut! Connor Farrell (Liam's younger brother) made his debut against Widnes on Wednesday and scored a gem of a try. It just goes to show that "if you are good enough then you are old enough".
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| Just because it's our best chance does not mean we think we will win. Your younger players have proved they are great and easily fit into the Wigan 1st team set up. Good club ethic.
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| Quote: nohalfbacks "It is very understable for you to conclude that you have a good chance to turn Wigan over. However, there are some very good young players in that squad and they are very very hungry. Wakefield will have to play very well to win. Having seen how good these young players are I am no longer phased by their inclusion in such numbers. They slot into the system so well that you can't easily tell who is making a debut! Connor Farrell (Liam's younger brother) made his debut against Widnes on Wednesday and scored a gem of a try. It just goes to show that "if you are good enough then you are old enough".'"
Oh i'm not saying we'll win! Don't think we are playing well enough to beat any wigan team to be honest. But it is fair to say we'll never have a better chance given the team selected, injuries and short turn around.
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| Still can't understand the logic in not including sammut in the team let alone the 19 man squad. He is the one x factor player we have.
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| Never have a better chance - didn't we say the same when we played them after the world club challenge.
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| Quote: The Avenger "
Quite a bit of youth in their squad and as good as they are it does leave us with a chance of an upset.'"
No!
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| Quote: Theboyem "Oh i'm not saying we'll win! Don't think we are playing well enough to beat any wigan team to be honest. But it is fair to say we'll never have a better chance given the team selected, injuries and short turn around.'"
I didn't read it that you were saying that you would win. Neither am I saying that Wigan will win. I am merely pointing out that the young players are better than people might assume. This fixture is usually quite competitive and see this being no different.
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| I don't know where the club has said Sammutt has a calf strain. He is fit but hasn't been selected. The twitter account and facebook official Wildcats page has stated he hasn't been selected.
This is a brave move by Webster and not without his own justification. For years people have said so called marquee / seasoned players never get dropped and complained about this. Sammutt wasn't at his best against Bradford and Webster has taken action. (I know others wasn't too). Sammutt knew himself Bradford wasn't his best game and payed the price. Whether the decision to drop him is the right one remains to be seen.
That aside it has happened and I would like to see this happen. I would like Him to force his way back in with great attitude and work ethic. He might believe the decision to leave him out is harsh (I honestly don't know) but life is harsh. He is a great bloke and fantastic player. But calm waters don't make good sailors!! By knuckling down and taking it on the chin and coming back with a point to prove means Sammutt has the ability and attitude to do this and ultimately Wakefield will benefit. Coaches should want to be proven wrong. Again as I mentioned about Walshaw when he went on loan. Sammutt prove Webster wrong 'So to speak' that he is good enough to command a place and knock Smith, Sykes or Mathers out of the team.
Fans have taken this as a negative as Jaz has many fine qualities. I'm hoping it turns out positive. I'm hoping that attitude and work ethic prevail and that when others get dropped they do the same. It's easy to sulk and have self pity. It might not be the right decision but crack on Jaz and show us you have the attitude as well as the obvious ability...
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Quote: Mick Amos 9 WTW "I don't know where the club has said Sammutt has a calf strain. He is fit but hasn't been selected. The twitter account and facebook official Wildcats page has stated he hasn't been selected.
This is a brave move by Webster and not without his own justification. For years people have said so called marquee / seasoned players never get dropped and complained about this. Sammutt wasn't at his best against Bradford and Webster has taken action. (I know others wasn't too). Sammutt knew himself Bradford wasn't his best game and payed the price. Whether the decision to drop him is the right one remains to be seen.
That aside it has happened and I would like to see this happen. I would like Him to force his way back in with great attitude and work ethic. He might believe the decision to leave him out is harsh (I honestly don't know) but life is harsh. He is a great bloke and fantastic player. But calm waters don't make good sailors!! By knuckling down and taking it on the chin and coming back with a point to prove means Sammutt has the ability and attitude to do this and ultimately Wakefield will benefit. Coaches should want to be proven wrong. Again as I mentioned about Walshaw when he went on loan. Sammutt prove Webster wrong 'So to speak' that he is good enough to command a place and knock Smith, Sykes or Mathers out of the team.
Fans have taken this as a negative as Jaz has many fine qualities. I'm hoping it turns out positive. I'm hoping that attitude and work ethic prevail and that when others get dropped they do the same. It's easy to sulk and have self pity. It might not be the right decision but crack on Jaz and show us you have the attitude as well as the obvious ability...'"
False. https://www.facebook.com/wakefieldwildc ... =1&theater
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Quote: Mick Amos 9 WTW "I don't know where the club has said Sammutt has a calf strain. He is fit but hasn't been selected. The twitter account and facebook official Wildcats page has stated he hasn't been selected.
This is a brave move by Webster and not without his own justification. For years people have said so called marquee / seasoned players never get dropped and complained about this. Sammutt wasn't at his best against Bradford and Webster has taken action. (I know others wasn't too). Sammutt knew himself Bradford wasn't his best game and payed the price. Whether the decision to drop him is the right one remains to be seen.
That aside it has happened and I would like to see this happen. I would like Him to force his way back in with great attitude and work ethic. He might believe the decision to leave him out is harsh (I honestly don't know) but life is harsh. He is a great bloke and fantastic player. But calm waters don't make good sailors!! By knuckling down and taking it on the chin and coming back with a point to prove means Sammutt has the ability and attitude to do this and ultimately Wakefield will benefit. Coaches should want to be proven wrong. Again as I mentioned about Walshaw when he went on loan. Sammutt prove Webster wrong 'So to speak' that he is good enough to command a place and knock Smith, Sykes or Mathers out of the team.
Fans have taken this as a negative as Jaz has many fine qualities. I'm hoping it turns out positive. I'm hoping that attitude and work ethic prevail and that when others get dropped they do the same. It's easy to sulk and have self pity. It might not be the right decision but crack on Jaz and show us you have the attitude as well as the obvious ability...'"
False. https://www.facebook.com/wakefieldwildc ... =1&theater
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| Need to put the younger Wigan players under pressure and not stand off them admiring what a fine crop of juniors they have.
Put more burden on the senior players.
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| Quote: Adam_Harrison9 "False.
Fair enough on mentioning the calf strain but the over riding reason is he was not selected in the starting 17.
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| Quote: Adam_Harrison9 "False.
Fair enough on mentioning the calf strain but the over riding reason is he was not selected in the starting 17.
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| Quote: Mick Amos 9 WTW "Fair enough on mentioning the calf strain but the over riding reason is he was not selected in the starting 17.'"
Yet he himself on twitter maintained he was fully fit and had been dropped. Whilst i don't agree with the decision myself that is the coaches prerogative and so be it. So why did the club feel the need to lie about the reason? What's the point?
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| Quote: Theboyem "Yet he himself on twitter maintained he was fully fit and had been dropped. Whilst i don't agree with the decision myself that is the coaches prerogative and so be it. So why did the club feel the need to lie about the reason? What's the point?'"
He may have a slight calf strain but not enough to keep him out of playing. Webster obviously feels with Jarrod not in his 17 that another forward ie Raleigh might be in contention for a forward role. I don't know but there is enough out there from the club to say he hasn't been selected. That is the primary reason. Not Calf strain but not selected.
Ambiguous maybe but not sure they have lied.
Bold brave move by the new coach & some are thinking crazy move. My points still stands on the other front. Love to see Jarrod work his way back into the team. Shows everyone at the club the right attitude. Again even if Jarrod thinks its unjust or unfair, crack on & rip it up when back in contention. Character building!!
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