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| How many times did Agar knock the ball on and how many penalties did he give away ?
Sorry folks, I don't think we should bag the coach for this one.
Our discipline was poor but, the handling was shocking.
What was our completion rate, 30-40% ?
Until we can complete our sets, we wont win any games.
We appeared to suffer more than Bradford, from the quick turnaround in fixtures but, those calling for Agar's head need to have a quiet word with themselves.
The game was awful, between 2 poor teams but, we need to support the coach and the players and the club and not throw the teddy out, just because we've had a bad game.
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| Agar will never deliver anything other than disappointment.....agreed he cant be blamed for dropped balls and penaltys etc, but the bloke couldnt do anything at Hull with unlimited funds and some of his recruitment is a joke. He has no time for the young kids and has all but cleared out some very good kids produced by the club. He will go for the second rate Aussie every day of the week.
As for getting rid...not a chance !! while ever Hetherington is here that wont happen, they were calling for his head for 3 years at Hull and it was only when Pearson came in that it happened....also to give him a 3 year contract....that says it all really...he is here to stay get used to it !
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| Whether Agar is your choice of coach or not he was NOT to blame for last nights defeat! Just about the whole team underperformed!
How the hell can you coach it into a player to prevent a try like the last Bradford try - schoolboy errors by THE PLAYERS!
The team looked like they didn't know each other.
One or two of the imports didn't look sharp enough but I will be more concerned if we've played 6 lost 6. No panic yet lets hope last nights match was the worst performance of the season - and all teams have those.
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| Agar set the tone over the last couple of weeks by refusing to accept that we are in a relegation battle. Anyone with the slightest knowledge of RL knows that London and us have very very poor squads. We are in a battle to avoid relegation and the coach and players need to grasp that fact, we should set our stall out to play a simple game, fight for every inch, backs to the wall etc etc. No mistakes rugby, no rugby in our own half etc etc. Instead our players believe they can play rugby, the evidence is there for all to see that this is not the case. The coach needs to ensure that the players biy into a relegation battle and understand what is required.
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| No Agar isn't to blame for the mistakes and the lateness of the players arriving but..
He is responsible for picking Ryan way out of position.
He is responsible for playing with 16 men for most of the game.
He is responsible for then giving Walshaw less than 10 mins at prop.
He is responsible for not having a field training session on wednesday when we are desperate for practise time together.
He is responsible for not just instructing the players to play a simple gameplan given our lack of time together and the conditions.
He is responsible for not freshening up the team where he could with two matches so close together. Briscoe, Trout, Wildie etc could have played.
He is responsible for continually picking Lyne, a player not up to superleague standard.
He is responsible for putting Sammut on the bench then having to reorganise the team mid-game to accomodate him
He is responsible for our only set move being fling it to Ali on the charge. There are enough players there from last season to be able to make the calls.
He is, at least partly, responsible for allowing our best goalkicker and one of our best two centres to leave just before the season started. We have now kicked just two from five attempts.
So Agar has to take his share of the blame. Now is not the time to get rid but neither should he be untouchable if things don't improve quickly.
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| We rushed Sammut in. Should have kept with Sundays team. Sammut a big player to bring in only had one training session. Can't blame Agar for the individual errors but tactically we were a shambles last night. Last year our best team in many a year and best we could muster was 10th.We Will get better I am happy to give Agar another 6 games
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| Demonstrates some of the problems at Belle Vue. In six months we've gone from a threat to our existence to building a squad that on paper is equal to last seasons. No one will defend last nights performance, it was scrappy, error riddled and instantly forgettable. We probably over performed at Salford and we're unlucky not to get something out of the game and last nights game probably came too early. Two SL matches in five days is difficult at the start of the season when players aren't fully match fit. Let's be realistic, Four of the squad have been here less than two weeks, all in key positions, it will take time. Sammut was a gamble last night, it didn't come off with hindsight Wildie might have been a better option. Considering all that's gone on at Belle Vue Agar has put together a decent squad having lost and replaced a third of his first team. Godinet, Sammut and McShane are all good players in key positions give them time and they will come good. Agar is not a miracle worker, give him time to work with the players before this nonsense.
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| Quote malpalu="malpalu"Demonstrates some of the problems at Belle Vue. In six months we've gone from a threat to our existence to building a squad that on paper is equal to last seasons. No one will defend last nights performance, it was scrappy, error riddled and instantly forgettable. We probably over performed at Salford and we're unlucky not to get something out of the game and last nights game probably came too early. Two SL matches in five days is difficult at the start of the season when players aren't fully match fit. Let's be realistic, Four of the squad have been here less than two weeks, all in key positions, it will take time. Sammut was a gamble last night, it didn't come off with hindsight Wildie might have been a better option. Considering all that's gone on at Belle Vue Agar has put together a decent squad having lost and replaced a third of his first team. Godinet, Sammut and McShane are all good players in key positions give them time and they will come good. Agar is not a miracle worker, give him time to work with the players before this nonsense.'"
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| I am sorry but Agar out is a stupid thing to say. It is not his fault that players were dropping balls left right and centre.
The structure of the defence in the last couple of games has been very good which is something that they must have worked on in pre season.
You also have to consider that 4 of our players have had less than a handful of training sessions with the team and Agar needs to be given chance to coach his team.
If we are still playing like we did last night after 10 games then maybe we may have to consider Agar out but I believe that we will get much better in the next few games.
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| Yes, yesterdays performance was dire, and Agar has to take some of the flak for this, but the errors we made were schoolboy, and only the players themselves can put that right.
Like others have said, our squad has only been together for a few weeks, whilst others have had all the winter. We started slowly in 2012, but finished strongly.
What I don't understand with Agar is the constant selection of Lyne obviously, but he has said he wants another front line prop, why?. We already have Anderson, Smith, Raleigh, Moore, Tautai and Shulver.
Personally, I think we need a good centre for the left, who is not coming towards the end of his career, but someone with several games under his belt. Sykes is too slow now, Lyne, Keinhorst and Briscoe don't have that much experience. Maybe an experienced centre could bring out the best in the younger backs such as Briscoe and Lynne.
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| Agar has a 3 year contract...We can't afford to sack him
That simple
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| Quote bellycouldtackle="bellycouldtackle"Agar set the tone over the last couple of weeks by refusing to accept that we are in a relegation battle. Anyone with the slightest knowledge of RL knows that London and us have very very poor squads. We are in a battle to avoid relegation and the coach and players need to grasp that fact, we should set our stall out to play a simple game, fight for every inch, backs to the wall etc etc. No mistakes rugby, no rugby in our own half etc etc. Instead our players believe they can play rugby, the evidence is there for all to see that this is not the case. The coach needs to ensure that the players biy into a relegation battle and understand what is required.'"
Yes what a great coaching idea.... I can see it now..
"Lads I've put this team together on a small budget and I'm glad you've come. We are relegation fodder and everyone knows it so lets go out there and just try avoid relegation....yes? You understand??? Kirmo stop tickling Ali and sit still! Right so we are all agreed that the media is right and we have no potential....great now let's go to costa"
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