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| Quote Khlav Kalash="Khlav Kalash"To be honest who could blame him.'"
Why, we have made that boy and he has been treated very well IMO.
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| Quote bren2k="bren2k"I thought he showed up well yesterday - clearly his spell at Fev has done him the world of good; a stroke of genius by Mr Agar!'"
It won't matter how subtle you are NGBC will never ever get what has happened - he simply isn't bright enough or an utter troll - you decide.
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| Quote vastman="vastman"Why, we have made that boy and he has been treated very well IMO.'"
I was thinking the same thing - what terrible wrong has Frankie suffered at the hands of WTW?
As far as I can see, he's been man-managed in a way that his boss deemed appropriate and it appears to have done the trick; if he decides to up-sticks off the back of it, that says more about him than it does about us.
On a broader point - I wonder if the RFL's clear intention to ram home a 12 team SL will have any impact on certain club's ability to make signings beyond next season? If I were a player, I'd expect my representative to take that into account when advising me.
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| Quote vastman="vastman"Why, we have made that boy and he has been treated very well IMO.'"
I think he has been overlooked when he has been the better option, I don't buy the poor attitude reason, and I haven't seen anything more from him since he returned that I didn't see before he was omitted from the squad. If he goes then Agar consistently selecting inferior players ahead of him will have contributed. If he feels more valued at another club then fair do's.
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| Quote Khlav Kalash="Khlav Kalash"I think he has been overlooked when he has been the better option, I don't buy the poor attitude reason, and I haven't seen anything more from him since he returned that I didn't see before he was omitted from the squad. If he goes then Agar consistently selecting inferior players ahead of him will have contributed. If he feels more valued at another club then fair do's.'"
Well that's not an opinion I share - Mariano is a great athlete and a good player but he was also prone to being a show pony. Who are these poorer options as IMHO I'm struggling.
He wasn't overlooked he was deliberately ignored and rightly so for me and I was saying it before Agar bit the bullet. He needed dropping and he needed a lesson. If that still irks him Cas are welcome to him as they are the experts with petulant players.
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| Quote bren2k="bren2k"On a broader point - I wonder if the RFL's clear intention to ram home a 12 team SL will have any impact on certain club's ability to make signings beyond next season? If I were a player, I'd expect my representative to take that into account when advising me.'"
An excellent point worthy of a discussion on its own. Trinity suffered in the 2011 season due to the sword of Damocles having over them but this time it could be any two of four who could make way. I guess/hope it will depend on league position at the end of the license period so the teams have their destiny in their own hands. One thing to note Tuson signed up until 2016 I think.
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| Quote vastman="vastman"Well that's not an opinion I share - Mariano is a great athlete and a good player but he was also prone to being a show pony. Who are these poorer options as IMHO I'm struggling.'"
Mellars, Lynn and Molloy.
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| Quote Khlav Kalash="Khlav Kalash"If he feels more valued at another club then fair do's.'"
Value is a very subjective thing in this case; the lad clearly has talent and ability but being part of a team calls for more than that - he also has to fit in with the culture, buy in to the ethos of what the coach is doing and make a positive contribution to the whole club. Any player not doing that diminishes the effectiveness of the team as a whole and unless you want player power to take hold, tough decisions have to be made.
Fortunately, we only see the performance side of things - we are not privy to what goes on behind the scenes, so we are prone to making judgements based on only half the information; those judgements, by extension, are likely to be wrong.
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| Quote Khlav Kalash="Khlav Kalash"Mellars, Lynn and Molloy.'"
Lynn plays centre/wing a position that Mariano rarely competes for these days - and I'm sure you like me were lording his early season form.
Mellars I don't get other than perhaps an attempt to put him in the shop window.
Molloy played when Mariano was on loan, didn't pay off.
However Wallshaw and especially Anakin got a chance and both are now obvious replacements for Mariano as is Tuson and Tickitwickita (never remember his name). So it works both ways.
Not a dig at you but it makes me laugh when folk say Agar doesn't promote young players but when he does he's attacked for ignoring existing ones - there are only 17 places available!
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| Quote Khlav Kalash="Khlav Kalash"I think he has been overlooked when he has been the better option, I don't buy the poor attitude reason, and I haven't seen anything more from him since he returned that I didn't see before he was omitted from the squad. If he goes then Agar consistently selecting inferior players ahead of him will have contributed. If he feels more valued at another club then fair do's.'"
Sounds about right to me, its not always down to the player.
He doesn't fit with Agar for whatever reason and thats the end of it.
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| Quote El Rey="El Rey"Sounds about right to me, its not always down to the player.
He doesn't fit with Agar for whatever reason and thats the end of it.'"
Then why has he been picked twice in a row?
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| Im really not sure on Frankie. Yes he has his good games, but i once heard him described by an ex member of staff as a flat track bully and that may well be the case. I know he hasnt played every week, and i may have forgotten one, but his best 2 games i think have been against Hemel & London, 2 of teh easier sides we will play this year.
He shows glimpses of what he could be but then in the same game can also show examples of why he will never reach the level of say, a Kirmond.
Ive seen a lot worse in a Trin shirt and wouldnt be unhappy if he signed on again, but at the same time i wouldnt be breaking the bank to ensure he did! Im confused????
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