Aye, that's what we have come to. Fair play to Cas they are getting back into the form they had last season, I am dreading Magic Weekend.

Everything has to be focused on that game and the one after against London. Lose those two and its a battle to avoid the wooden spoon. Can't say i'm overly confident about them though.

Explains why we scored 36 points, had Owen held up over the line twice, Clark short once, Griffin short once.

With a better kicker we'd have probably got over 50 today - that's how poor Widnes were. Could only get near our line with the piggy-backing they got off the number of pens we gave away.

Widnes were terrible, with rangi on the pitch you would have scored 70

By the way you had orr, huby, dixon and even griffin how many chuffin kickers do you need

In defence of Widnes they did defend very well most of the time, the problem was that when they didn't make that 110% effort you scored



Have to say, Mcgoldrick made another good case for him getting the boot today, how he stayed on the pitch and got his "Leading Elbow" put on report following a video review of the incident is baffling


One of the most consistently dirty players of recent times offering nothing else to justify his inclusion in a team

I thought I was watching 2 championship teams most of the match, 2 very bad teams. If we don't finish above these then it's a bad state of affairs. I had to laugh at Ferres saying if we carry on being consistent we will be in the 8 hahahah.

Back so soon? I thought you said you didn't post much on here?

By the way how slow is Griffin, it looked like he was treading water.

mate, don't insult the championship sides. watched keighley and dewsbury yesterday. really enjoyed it. good competitive game. watched that today, bored

I agree a few championship teams are better than what we saw today, hence Cas getting bossed by Fev.

I didn't mean goalkickers, I actually meant kickers in general play. Abysmal kicking - Clark into touch, McGoldrick to no-one, Owen to the opposition. Poor, poor options and rather than going for kicks into corner we just turned over possession.

As for Griffin being slow, I think Orr's pass was mistimed really. Rather than drawing the full-back and committing him, he passed too early to allow the FB (already with a two foot advantage) to still be in the footrace.

Explains why Fev got stuffed by 60 points by two different sides around their Challenge Cup fixtures.

Let's make no bones about it, those ties were cup finals. In all honesty, Fev would have probably beat Wakefield both times too. Note you didn't say that, though.