Quote rugbyball="rugbyball"Omg Planning has been given mindful to approve status and your doing an indepth breatkdown of the letters of complaint.'"
To be fair, I am just looking at the full list of names and addresses of people who sent in consultation replies. I phoned up Wakefield Planning, spoke to Becky and she printed off the full list and left it on reception for me to pick up when I was passing (which I did picking up my little boy from his Grandma's). I spent 30 minutes or so looking at the list and counting the number of objections from Leeds, Wakefield etc. I would hardly call it an 'in-depth breakdown'. The reason I wanted the information are numerous, it is public information and so I wanted to look at the list, I wanted to confirm my own feelings and suspicions that the majority of the objection came from outside of Wakefield and also have the relevant information ready if and when the people driving the wider objection make their next move to try and influence the regional and government office to put this scheme to a costly and unnecessary PI.
Quote rugbyball="rugbyball"At the end of the day people are entitled to object, if they wish wether sombody puts the idea in their head or not. It was the same with the petition from swag, did people not actively seek signatures for that. Also letters to the planning department was the offical way to register your view, unlike the swag petition which gave a very brief outline of the overall development.
I have different opinions to you, but what has irked me all along is the fact that you seem to think that other people are not entitled to theirs. It is obvious that people living close to the development will want to have their view known and that it will more than likley be based on localised issues. Im sure the main factor that compelled trin fans to support the project were rugby related.'"
Of course they are and I have never not respected their right to do so, in fact I fully support their right to do so, as I believe in the system, with all it's flaws! However, I have equally exercised my right to support the scheme and oppose their views, I have done so openly and in an honest way... I have not hidden behind any invented group names, disguised my real identity on official appearing websites or even potentially broken the law by possibly libelling anyone or allegedly deliberately assumed a false identity!
You still don't get it do you, you don't understand that was is really driving me stems from that first WCCG flyer I got sent on e-mail and I then posted on here. That flyer is what irked me, the WAR flyer that followed, the websites, the half-truths and in some cases lies told by a small group of people who have abused the trust (IMO) of hundreds of decent people and used them to further their true selfish purpose... to stop this development happening because it is next to them. With the exception of the green-belt issue which was valid (albeit I think Wakefield have made the correct decision in this regard), the overwhelming majority of their objections are without any foundation. The thing is they knew that from day one, but instead of deciding to stand and fight fare, so to speak, they decided to fight dirty (IMO) and while being brilliant in their execution of that plan, it is this that has driven my more than anything. They have convinced genuine organisations like Methley Residents Association, an MP from the neighbouring constituency, local councillors from the neighbouring ward and many, many people that they are being driven by conservation, green issues, waste of tax payer money and environmental concerns... but never once revealed their true purpose and identity. People by their nature are trusting, so when someone from a group called Wakefield & Leeds Community Conservation Group and Wakefield Angry Residents send you a flyer or an e-mail many people give them their trust and believe them.
Quote rugbyball="rugbyball"The fact of the matter is though the Council wanted this project all along, and more than likley initiated it as you know developments like this do not happen by chance (which made it all the more funny listening to people on here slating the council), they happen because councils want them to happen. The big test now will be weather the government agree with the council.'"
And there it is... the killer line that if you look back at my posts I predicted would come out, lets blame the biased and corrupt council, we never stood a chance! But do you know what, of course they did and of course they want them to happen because that is what we elect them to do but you seem to missing something! You are claiming to be the victims of some sort of injustice because 'loads' of you complained and objected and this is all the proof you need but you are quite happy to ignore the possibility that my opinion, while repugnant and different to yours, was more reasoned, relevant and objective than yours... just a thought?
. However, I do agree that the big test will be weather, because a hard winter may slow down the project 
. I hope you are so right with the second part of that sentence. 
