Thanks for giving me your opinion old lad or I believed a know nothing like Paul Sculthorpe on tv saying he knows Mash well and he's a good coach

Winning 4 games in a whole season would strongly suggest that he isn't a good coach. Getting knocked out of the chwllenge cup in the first round they played would strongly suggest he isnt a good coach. Leading the team who had the most nillings ever in Super League would strongly suggest he isn't a good coach. Getting your home team club relegated in your first season would strongly suggest he isn't a good coach.

I'm sure he's a lovely bloke, but he is the worst coach in Super League and club history

I don't go in for the 'he's rubbish because of the result'. There are loads of things that affect the result, injuries in particular at the beginning of the season

However, at the Shareholder meetings, Mash said he didn't want to talk about individual players, and possibly right to do it, but I'd like to know

1) why could Fifita arriving improve Atoni's performance, but you and no one else including Atoni himself could do it
2) why play Proctor when he either can't do more than 35 minutes at best and 15 at worst. Who's decision was it not to come back on, Proctor or Mash.
3) who's decision was it to sign Proctor?

Sure you know more than Sculthorpe you know a lot less than me though

Sure you know more than Sculthorpe you know a lot less than me though

Surely that's Tony Anderson's badge?

Close, but I think Applegarth has taken over. Anderson came in 2002 and saved Fax from relegation in his first season, and while they may have lost a couple more games in 2003 than us this season, they weren't nilled as many times.

. Ply W D L F A Diff Pts

Fax 27 1 0 26 372 1227 -855 0* (*Fax lost the 2 Pts for Salary Cap Breach I think)
Trin 26 4 0* 22 291 686 -686 8* (* We had 3 draws so could have been 9 pts)

Anyway up if you solely blame a coach for the results Anderson was worse.

An average of 11 points for has really killed us this year, and by far and away has been the main issue Applegarth hasn't been able to resolve. He stays next year any enthusiasm I have for a fresh start will have dissipated, along with the suggestion that we'll be utilising the dual reg/loan market (although why Carter is commenting on that I dont know).

Leigh have shown the way to go, and if Ellis takes over we need quality, not cast offs.

Eitherway I'll still be the next February/March.

These 3 question pretty much frame up my take on the car crash if a season. Answer these and you answer what is wrong with the club.

You are correct that not being able to score points has killed us......but it was not unsolved, it just came too late.
First 13 league games we averaged 6 points per game.
Second 13 league games we averaged 16 points per game.

If Sculthorpe thinks he’s a good coach, then maybe he wouldn’t mind seeing him be the next coach of St Helens then.

He’s not a good coach and no amount of statistical manipulation, bending of theoretical physics, barrage of celebrity PR announcements or sympathy searching statements from Carter & Minards will change the lived experience of fans and players alike during this monstrosity of a season!

Il have a go then
1 big dave came back into the club saw it was a shambles on the field and stuck his hand up and basically said I'm going to lead from the front. Atoni and a few others even proctor in a few games went with him stuck their hand up and thought right wel roll our sleeves up and have a go.
2 it was plainly obvious from the start of the season that proctors legs had gone but we continued with him when we could of played young lads like eseh and crowther.
3 poaching was offered proctor but didn't want as like I said his legs had gone, poaching departs, one of the coach or Carter still sign proctor. That's my take on it

Yes but I wanted the actual answer, not your assumptions. But thanks anyway.